Ephedra is legal and available...

[magic32]

Contrary to popular belief/understanding, Ephedra is not an illicit or illegal substance. Due to the negligence of a few, this remarkable supplement was banned in the US, while having existed in China’s herbal & slimming teas and supplements for centuries (literally 300 years). This simply and very accurately means that it is illegal to sell Ephedra over-the-counter within the US and its territories.

The example I often give is that of the drunk driver commercial with the car filled with alcohol that pours out onto the highway. If a cop stopped you with that many Ephedra caps he’d ticket you for the stop and send you on your way, but if he caught you with a single Dbol tab and no script, he could legally arrest you.

I reiterate, the possession of Ephedra is not illegal, only the selling of it is subject to banning. I said that to say this, there are numerous online stores (a couple of which I and friends have authenticated) that legally sell numerous brands of the ECA stack, and though site rules may restrict my posting said sites. You can PM me for them and happy cutting!

Best to you.

[Fat Guy]

Supplements with ephedra had been banned in the U.S. However, you can still get products that are derivatives of ephedra, like ephedrine or pseudoephedrine (same as ephedra) that are over the counter at your local pharmacy stores mostly in nasal decongestants for cheap.

[magic32]

Supplements with ephedra had been banned in the U.S. However, you can still get products that are derivatives of ephedra, like ephedrine or pseudoephedrine (same as ephedra) that are over the counter at your local pharmacy stores mostly in nasal decongestants for cheap.

Not the same.

As stated, anyone interested in genuine Ephedra, not a mimicker or Ephedrine, drop me a line.

[Hoss7789]

Where can I get ephrada and is it a good diet fat burning supplement

[jstone]

Where can I get ephrada and is it a good diet fat burning supplement

Google is ephedra legal and read a few links and you will realize ephedra was never illegal. Ephedra alkaloids are what was made illegal accept for medical use. If you want ephedrine hcl go to the pharmacy and ask for bronk aid or primatene tabs. They also have an additive in it to help astma sufferers, google primatene and ylu can then look up the other ingredient. This stufd that this thread is about has zero alkaloids in it, but the op said his highly intune b2 receptors can tell it real and its exactly like old products like ripped fuel, but if you look at the picture I posted of the ripped fuel label it clearly states ephedra alkaloids. So the products promoted here are nothing like the old products. They may work, because they add so many different stimulants like synephrine. Some sources also carry ephedrine hcl, but you have to find them on your own, but its not hard.

[Fat Guy]

I always thought it was the same??? When I take pseudoephedrine I get really amped to do my workouts (cardio or lifting)… I just thought it was a derivative of ephedra but had the same effect. Now I am curious? How is it different? Can you give an explanation? Thanks

[Bryan2]

pseudo ephedrine is NOT the same

Ephedrine is the standardized extract

ephedrine/ephedra is NOT banned in the US

it is only banned as a weight loss supplement

It is commonly sold now as an asthma relief supplement

[Failure]

Ephedrine HCL is in Primatene Mist tablets and Bronkaid. It is also easily bought from Internet resellers. The ban has been lifted for years. It is a controlled drug and you are only allowed so much per month because it is the main ingredient of Meth. People don't need source checks on Ephedrine, all they have to do is go to their local supermarket and pick it up.

[Fat Guy]

pseudo ephedrine is NOT the same

Ephedrine is the standardized extract

ephedrine/ephedra is NOT banned in the US

it is only banned as a weight loss supplement

It is commonly sold now as an asthma relief supplement

So is ephedrine the same as ephedra? I always thought it was but ephedrine was just a derivative but did the same thing as ephedra.

[Failure]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedra

One is man made and the other is an extract.

[Ashop]

pseudo ephedrine is NOT the same

Ephedrine is the standardized extract

ephedrine/ephedra is NOT banned in the US

it is only banned as a weight loss supplement

It is commonly sold now as an asthma relief supplement

Good reply and NICE avatar

[SNRose07]

right, ephedra was taken to get the effects of its active ingredient, ephedrine. Man made ephedrine hcl is pure and can be taken at precise dosages. Ephedrine HCL is better.

[magic32]

Everybody that requested the two validated sites should have them by now.

I always thought it was the same??? When I take pseudoephedrine I get really amped to do my workouts (cardio or lifting)… I just thought it was a derivative of ephedra but had the same effect. Now I am curious? How is it different? Can you give an explanation? Thanks

Ephedra is the commercial name for the Chinese herbal stimulant ma huang.
Ephedrine is the active alk in it.
HCL is the pharm version.

Ephedra is nationally BANNED within the US, or my thread wouldn't make much sense now would it? A couple of states initally fought said ban and did get it overturned at the state level, but I'm not sure if that was sustained.

The variants above and really too many more to name (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...t-ephedra.html), along with numerous EPH mimickers including psuedoephedrine (sulfate & hydrochloride), Synephrine a.k.a. Bitter Orange, the amino acid L-Tyrosine, and many others are available in Eph-Free products and do work to a lesser extent. As indicated in other posts above, if taken in high enough dosages both Ephedrine and HCL will work.

But why bother when you can get ACTUAL EPHEDRA (at its true potency) in numerous stacks with several extras like Yohimbine, L-Carn, Green Tea, etc., from multiple brands w/o problems.

NOTE: BE SURE TO SEARCH FOR THE MOST EFFECTIVE BASE RATIO OR CLOSE TO IT, NAMELY 3:2:1
30 or 25mgs of Eph
200mgs of Caff
100 or 81+ (baby aspirin amt) of Asp

And, "no" I have nothing to do with these sites, brands or people who own them. I just prefer Eph to Clen and wanted to share some validated sites that I've been spreading to gym rats for years. I actually posted them a couple of years ago, if it wasn't edited.

Enjoy and best to you!

[Failure]

Because you can just make your own from the local grocery store. Why go through people or sites and pay shipping/wait time etc when you are allowed to buy it yourself. No Doz, Primatene mist and some asprin and you have your ECA stack.

If you are buying Ephedra, the leaves contain no/very little Ephedra Alkaloids. Basically just a marketing scheme to get you to buy it.

[magic32]

Glad that works for you.
To each his own!

[dsldsl1980]

I like bronkaid best!

[frawnz]

I always used bronkaid as well.

[magic32]

Bump.
Two validated sites and a host of different brands!

[luigimaster24]

PM sent !!! Thanks Magic!

[coonhunter]

sending pm now

[luigimaster24]

PM sent , no response as of yet.

[magic32]

Bump...great sites.

[magic32]

Bump.

[magic32]

Bumped for recent outbreak of Ephedra questions.

[Geezy]

PM'd you a couple of days ago...if anyone can relay the info to me, I'd really appreciate it as Im trying to get going on an eca stack asap.
thanks

[pregan]

Good to hear there's an easy way to get it again. I've used it with great results in the past. Tried the new stuff and it was junk.

[< <Samson> >]

Just go buy some Bronkaid at the CVS.

[Far from massive]

Just go buy some Bronkaid at the CVS.

Why would you want to take an expectorant with your Ephedra?

In addition I am pretty sure the stuff has been pulled recently due to methheads.

PS Magic thanks for the thread and taking the time to repost despite the lack of love (for the information) LOL being shown.

[lovbyts]

Magic32,
Good write up on the DNP. It goet a little muddy for a while which way you were going with it but the last sentence sort of sums it up. Not worth it...
Good read and plenty of information.

Bottom line nothing beats a good diet for 99.9% of us.

[magic32]

Magic32,
Good write up on the DNP. It goet a little muddy for a while which way you were going with it but the last sentence sort of sums it up. Not worth it...
Good read and plenty of information.

Bottom line nothing beats a good diet for 99.9% of us.

It goet a little muddy for a while which way you were going with it

I was simply being 'objective', and sometimes that means blurring the lines.
DNP is GREAT at doing what it alleges, thus it can seem as if I'm promoting it. However, the prevailing theme of the piece is that of 'a poison' which clearly indicates the opposite stance...and when coupled with the inability to sustain your rapidly and newly lost fat, the summation should be a no-brainer!

[Simon1972]

interesting read, now that its ok to source on the board- can anyone link to a valid product that actually contains the active ingredients.

even ebay !!

[GirlyGymRat]

interesting read, now that its ok to source on the board- can anyone link to a valid product that actually contains the active ingredients. even ebay !!

I found it. Just arrived today. Let's see what happens. 20mg seems like a high dose for me.

[Simon1972]

I found it. Just arrived today. Let's see what happens. 20mg seems like a high dose for me.

Start at 10 and ramp it up, love to get your feedback

[jstone]

I found it. Just arrived today. Let's see what happens. 20mg seems like a high dose for me.

20mg which has no more than 2% of the active ingredients. They also chock it full of other stimulasnts. So you will feel it but its not ephedrine, or any ephedra alkaloid.

[jstone]

interesting read, now that its ok to source on the board- can anyone link to a valid product that actually contains the active ingredients.

even ebay !!

Have you ever used the old jack3d or oxy elite pro with 1,3 dmaa? If you like those products let e me know I can point you to bulk dmaa or a new company that is copying the old oxy elite pro.

If you want ephedrine and you live in the states go to the pharmacy counter and ask for bronk aid or primatene. Bronkaid is 25mg of ephedrine hcl per pill and primatene is 12.5mg of ephedrine hcl per pill. Both of these products also have something else in them to help with astma symptoms. If you google it you can find out what it is easy.

You can also get ephedra in amps that is injectable. The sources that carry this are very easy to find, but still in the greay area here.

[Simon1972]

Have you ever used the old jack3d or oxy elite pro with 1,3 dmaa? If you like those products let e me know I can point you to bulk dmaa or a new company that is copying the old oxy elite pro.

If you want ephedrine and you live in the states go to the pharmacy counter and ask for bronk aid or primatene. Bronkaid is 25mg of ephedrine hcl per pill and primatene is 12.5mg of ephedrine hcl per pill. Both of these products also have something else in them to help with astma symptoms. If you google it you can find out what it is easy.

You can also get ephedra in amps that is injectable. The sources that carry this are very easy to find, but still in the greay area here.

Post away,,

[Alex201]

Magic, if possible send me the right way - shoot me a pm

[magic32]

Magic, if possible send me the right way - shoot me a pm

Please clarify this request.
Right way to...

[Alex201]

Please clarify this request.
Right way to...

Sorry... To a legit site with real eph

[rampaige77]

i bought this here in washington over the counter it says Ephedra Extract 25mg