Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 40 of 85

Thread: Ephedra is legal and available...

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Omnipresent
    Posts
    6,315

    Ephedra is legal and available...

    Contrary to popular belief/understanding, Ephedra is not an illicit or illegal substance. Due to the negligence of a few, this remarkable supplement was banned in the US, while having existed in China’s herbal & slimming teas and supplements for centuries (literally 300 years). This simply and very accurately means that it is illegal to sell Ephedra over-the-counter within the US and its territories.

    The example I often give is that of the drunk driver commercial with the car filled with alcohol that pours out onto the highway. If a cop stopped you with that many Ephedra caps he’d ticket you for the stop and send you on your way, but if he caught you with a single Dbol tab and no script, he could legally arrest you.

    I reiterate, the possession of Ephedra is not illegal, only the selling of it is subject to banning. I said that to say this, there are numerous online stores (a couple of which I and friends have authenticated) that legally sell numerous brands of the ECA stack, and though site rules may restrict my posting said sites. You can PM me for them and happy cutting!

    Best to you.
    Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan



    My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).

    I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
    I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!


    Difference between Drugs & Poisons
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700


    Half-lives explained
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life


    DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144


    BE CAREFUL!

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    So Cali. Inland Empire
    Posts
    1,223
    Supplements with ephedra had been banned in the U.S. However, you can still get products that are derivatives of ephedra, like ephedrine or pseudoephedrine (same as ephedra) that are over the counter at your local pharmacy stores mostly in nasal decongestants for cheap.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Omnipresent
    Posts
    6,315
    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Guy View Post
    Supplements with ephedra had been banned in the U.S. However, you can still get products that are derivatives of ephedra, like ephedrine or pseudoephedrine (same as ephedra) that are over the counter at your local pharmacy stores mostly in nasal decongestants for cheap.
    Not the same.

    As stated, anyone interested in genuine Ephedra, not a mimicker or Ephedrine, drop me a line.
    Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan



    My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).

    I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
    I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!


    Difference between Drugs & Poisons
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700


    Half-lives explained
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life


    DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144


    BE CAREFUL!

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    Usa
    Posts
    8
    Where can I get ephrada and is it a good diet fat burning supplement

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    1,438
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss7789 View Post
    Where can I get ephrada and is it a good diet fat burning supplement
    Google is ephedra legal and read a few links and you will realize ephedra was never illegal. Ephedra alkaloids are what was made illegal accept for medical use. If you want ephedrine hcl go to the pharmacy and ask for bronk aid or primatene tabs. They also have an additive in it to help astma sufferers, google primatene and ylu can then look up the other ingredient. This stufd that this thread is about has zero alkaloids in it, but the op said his highly intune b2 receptors can tell it real and its exactly like old products like ripped fuel, but if you look at the picture I posted of the ripped fuel label it clearly states ephedra alkaloids. So the products promoted here are nothing like the old products. They may work, because they add so many different stimulants like synephrine. Some sources also carry ephedrine hcl, but you have to find them on your own, but its not hard.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    So Cali. Inland Empire
    Posts
    1,223
    I always thought it was the same??? When I take pseudoephedrine I get really amped to do my workouts (cardio or lifting)… I just thought it was a derivative of ephedra but had the same effect. Now I am curious? How is it different? Can you give an explanation? Thanks

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    3,592
    pseudo ephedrine is NOT the same

    Ephedrine is the standardized extract

    ephedrine/ephedra is NOT banned in the US

    it is only banned as a weight loss supplement

    It is commonly sold now as an asthma relief supplement

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Elk Grove, CA
    Posts
    224
    Ephedrine HCL is in Primatene Mist tablets and Bronkaid. It is also easily bought from Internet resellers. The ban has been lifted for years. It is a controlled drug and you are only allowed so much per month because it is the main ingredient of Meth. People don't need source checks on Ephedrine, all they have to do is go to their local supermarket and pick it up.
    Last edited by Failure; 09-19-2010 at 06:20 PM.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    So Cali. Inland Empire
    Posts
    1,223
    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan2 View Post
    pseudo ephedrine is NOT the same

    Ephedrine is the standardized extract

    ephedrine/ephedra is NOT banned in the US

    it is only banned as a weight loss supplement

    It is commonly sold now as an asthma relief supplement
    So is ephedrine the same as ephedra? I always thought it was but ephedrine was just a derivative but did the same thing as ephedra.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Elk Grove, CA
    Posts
    224
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedra

    One is man made and the other is an extract.

  11. #11

    Thumbs up

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan2 View Post
    pseudo ephedrine is NOT the same

    Ephedrine is the standardized extract

    ephedrine/ephedra is NOT banned in the US

    it is only banned as a weight loss supplement

    It is commonly sold now as an asthma relief supplement
    Good reply and NICE avatar

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    72
    right, ephedra was taken to get the effects of its active ingredient, ephedrine. Man made ephedrine hcl is pure and can be taken at precise dosages. Ephedrine HCL is better.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Omnipresent
    Posts
    6,315
    Everybody that requested the two validated sites should have them by now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Guy View Post
    I always thought it was the same??? When I take pseudoephedrine I get really amped to do my workouts (cardio or lifting)… I just thought it was a derivative of ephedra but had the same effect. Now I am curious? How is it different? Can you give an explanation? Thanks
    Ephedra is the commercial name for the Chinese herbal stimulant ma huang.
    Ephedrine is the active alk in it.
    HCL is the pharm version.

    Ephedra is nationally BANNED within the US, or my thread wouldn't make much sense now would it? A couple of states initally fought said ban and did get it overturned at the state level, but I'm not sure if that was sustained.

    The variants above and really too many more to name (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...t-ephedra.html), along with numerous EPH mimickers including psuedoephedrine (sulfate & hydrochloride), Synephrine a.k.a. Bitter Orange, the amino acid L-Tyrosine, and many others are available in Eph-Free products and do work to a lesser extent. As indicated in other posts above, if taken in high enough dosages both Ephedrine and HCL will work.

    But why bother when you can get ACTUAL EPHEDRA (at its true potency) in numerous stacks with several extras like Yohimbine, L-Carn, Green Tea, etc., from multiple brands w/o problems.

    NOTE: BE SURE TO SEARCH FOR THE MOST EFFECTIVE BASE RATIO OR CLOSE TO IT, NAMELY 3:2:1
    30 or 25mgs of Eph
    200mgs of Caff
    100 or 81+ (baby aspirin amt) of Asp

    And, "no" I have nothing to do with these sites, brands or people who own them. I just prefer Eph to Clen and wanted to share some validated sites that I've been spreading to gym rats for years. I actually posted them a couple of years ago, if it wasn't edited.

    Enjoy and best to you!
    Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan



    My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).

    I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
    I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!


    Difference between Drugs & Poisons
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700


    Half-lives explained
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life


    DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144


    BE CAREFUL!

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Elk Grove, CA
    Posts
    224
    Because you can just make your own from the local grocery store. Why go through people or sites and pay shipping/wait time etc when you are allowed to buy it yourself. No Doz, Primatene mist and some asprin and you have your ECA stack.

    If you are buying Ephedra, the leaves contain no/very little Ephedra Alkaloids. Basically just a marketing scheme to get you to buy it.
    Last edited by Failure; 09-21-2010 at 03:46 AM.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Omnipresent
    Posts
    6,315
    Glad that works for you.
    To each his own!
    Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan



    My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).

    I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
    I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!


    Difference between Drugs & Poisons
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700


    Half-lives explained
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life


    DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144


    BE CAREFUL!

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    238
    I like bronkaid best!

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    587
    I always used bronkaid as well.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Omnipresent
    Posts
    6,315
    Bump.
    Two validated sites and a host of different brands!
    Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan



    My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).

    I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
    I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!


    Difference between Drugs & Poisons
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700


    Half-lives explained
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life


    DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144


    BE CAREFUL!

  19. #19
    PM sent !!! Thanks Magic!

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    North West United States
    Posts
    926
    sending pm now

  21. #21
    PM sent , no response as of yet.

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Omnipresent
    Posts
    6,315
    Bump...great sites.
    Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan



    My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).

    I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
    I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!


    Difference between Drugs & Poisons
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700


    Half-lives explained
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life


    DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144


    BE CAREFUL!

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Omnipresent
    Posts
    6,315
    Bump.
    Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan



    My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).

    I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
    I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!


    Difference between Drugs & Poisons
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700


    Half-lives explained
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life


    DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144


    BE CAREFUL!

  24. #24
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Omnipresent
    Posts
    6,315
    Bumped for recent outbreak of Ephedra questions.
    Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan



    My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).

    I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
    I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!


    Difference between Drugs & Poisons
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700


    Half-lives explained
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life


    DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144


    BE CAREFUL!

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    365
    PM'd you a couple of days ago...if anyone can relay the info to me, I'd really appreciate it as Im trying to get going on an eca stack asap.
    thanks

  26. #26
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    18
    Good to hear there's an easy way to get it again. I've used it with great results in the past. Tried the new stuff and it was junk.

  27. #27
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    AZ Side
    Posts
    12,809
    Just go buy some Bronkaid at the CVS.

  28. #28
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    No Sources Given
    Posts
    5,408
    Quote Originally Posted by samson_420 View Post
    Just go buy some Bronkaid at the CVS.
    Why would you want to take an expectorant with your Ephedra?

    In addition I am pretty sure the stuff has been pulled recently due to methheads.

    PS Magic thanks for the thread and taking the time to repost despite the lack of love (for the information) LOL being shown.

  29. #29
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    30,264
    Magic32,
    Good write up on the DNP. It goet a little muddy for a while which way you were going with it but the last sentence sort of sums it up. Not worth it...
    Good read and plenty of information.

    Bottom line nothing beats a good diet for 99.9% of us.

  30. #30
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Omnipresent
    Posts
    6,315
    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Magic32,
    Good write up on the DNP. It goet a little muddy for a while which way you were going with it but the last sentence sort of sums it up. Not worth it...
    Good read and plenty of information.

    Bottom line nothing beats a good diet for 99.9% of us.
    It goet a little muddy for a while which way you were going with it

    I was simply being 'objective', and sometimes that means blurring the lines.
    DNP is GREAT at doing what it alleges, thus it can seem as if I'm promoting it. However, the prevailing theme of the piece is that of 'a poison' which clearly indicates the opposite stance...and when coupled with the inability to sustain your rapidly and newly lost fat, the summation should be a no-brainer!
    Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan



    My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).

    I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
    I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!


    Difference between Drugs & Poisons
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700


    Half-lives explained
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life


    DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144


    BE CAREFUL!

  31. #31
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Montreal Canada
    Posts
    1,357
    interesting read, now that its ok to source on the board- can anyone link to a valid product that actually contains the active ingredients.

    even ebay !!

  32. #32
    GirlyGymRat's Avatar
    GirlyGymRat is offline Knowledgeable Elite ~ Respected Female Leader ~
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    In a gym!
    Posts
    14,952
    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972
    interesting read, now that its ok to source on the board- can anyone link to a valid product that actually contains the active ingredients. even ebay !!
    I found it. Just arrived today. Let's see what happens. 20mg seems like a high dose for me.

  33. #33
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Montreal Canada
    Posts
    1,357
    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    I found it. Just arrived today. Let's see what happens. 20mg seems like a high dose for me.
    Start at 10 and ramp it up, love to get your feedback

  34. #34
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    1,438
    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    I found it. Just arrived today. Let's see what happens. 20mg seems like a high dose for me.
    20mg which has no more than 2% of the active ingredients. They also chock it full of other stimulasnts. So you will feel it but its not ephedrine, or any ephedra alkaloid.

  35. #35
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    1,438
    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    interesting read, now that its ok to source on the board- can anyone link to a valid product that actually contains the active ingredients.

    even ebay !!
    Have you ever used the old jack3d or oxy elite pro with 1,3 dmaa? If you like those products let e me know I can point you to bulk dmaa or a new company that is copying the old oxy elite pro.

    If you want ephedrine and you live in the states go to the pharmacy counter and ask for bronk aid or primatene. Bronkaid is 25mg of ephedrine hcl per pill and primatene is 12.5mg of ephedrine hcl per pill. Both of these products also have something else in them to help with astma symptoms. If you google it you can find out what it is easy.

    You can also get ephedra in amps that is injectable. The sources that carry this are very easy to find, but still in the greay area here.

  36. #36
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Montreal Canada
    Posts
    1,357
    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    Have you ever used the old jack3d or oxy elite pro with 1,3 dmaa? If you like those products let e me know I can point you to bulk dmaa or a new company that is copying the old oxy elite pro.

    If you want ephedrine and you live in the states go to the pharmacy counter and ask for bronk aid or primatene. Bronkaid is 25mg of ephedrine hcl per pill and primatene is 12.5mg of ephedrine hcl per pill. Both of these products also have something else in them to help with astma symptoms. If you google it you can find out what it is easy.

    You can also get ephedra in amps that is injectable. The sources that carry this are very easy to find, but still in the greay area here.
    Post away,,

  37. #37
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Jersey
    Posts
    10
    Magic, if possible send me the right way - shoot me a pm

  38. #38
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Omnipresent
    Posts
    6,315
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex201 View Post
    Magic, if possible send me the right way - shoot me a pm
    Please clarify this request.
    Right way to...
    Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan



    My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).

    I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
    I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!


    Difference between Drugs & Poisons
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700


    Half-lives explained
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life


    DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144


    BE CAREFUL!

  39. #39
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Jersey
    Posts
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post
    Please clarify this request.
    Right way to...
    Sorry... To a legit site with real eph

  40. #40
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    oly wa
    Posts
    266
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	eca.jpg 
Views:	980 
Size:	107.4 KB 
ID:	123971 i bought this here in washington over the counter it says Ephedra Extract 25mg

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •