ar-r pct

[Mavilia]

im ordering my pct through ar-r for a test and tren cycle. 12 weeks of test cyp 500mg a week and 8 weeks of tren a 100mg eod. was going to go with clomid and nolva but have read here alot of people saying use torem instead. is torem to be used alone to replace both clomid and nolva or to be used with them? also whats the dosage i should take and how long after last shot of test? thanks for the advice in advance

[2jz_calgary]

i belive pct for cyp is about 18 days after last shot, but you may want to check the pct start times sticky. Lots who run toremifine run it with nolva especially after running tren id have 2 serms. i think people who run torem use doses like 120/60/60/60 but you may want to read through the pct q and a with swifto thread as he goes through all this stuff, its a long read but really answers all questions on these compounds and pct.

[djm6464]

yeah cyp you can start pct anywhere between 2-3 wks.....ill even wait 3wks for enth also, they have 14day-ish half-lifes so even at 2wks, its still in there

[Mavilia]

i havent taken anything on cycle such as hcg. just test and tren, and some dbol at beginning of cycle. so i can use the torem without clomid and nolva? I was told to use torem in addition to clomid. i admit ive done 5 maybe 6 cycles and never used any pct, never had a problem with sides only loosing alot of the gains. obviosuly this time i want to do it right. should i use all 3? torem clomid and nolva? and ive read alot of people saying over the counter stuff as well but didnt know the abbreviations mean, like whats daa?

[djm6464]

i love torem,usually i use it
120/120/120/90/90/90/90
then wk 2/3 60
then wk 4 30
ill add stuff here n there like daa or something else natty, but i like it.....if you use hcg on cycle with the tren, i dont see the use in nolva, especially if e2 was controlled on cycle

[vishus]

disappointing to hear u did 5 cycles without pct......

[Mavilia]

yeah i know. but as i said i want to do it right this time and im just lucky i never had any bad side effects other than loosing alot of my gains. so again and advise about what to take the torem with would be appreciated alot