First cycle for 19 year old

[Tomz]

I am currently doing a 10 week test e cycle at 500mg a week. im at week 5 now and noticing great strength and weight gains about 4kgs already. I am just now thinking that I may have started too early and dont want to cause myself damage for later on. I have adex, nolva, clomid and hcg all at hand for my pct. i was wondering on everyones thoughts on weather i should continue for the the rest of the cycle or stop and start pct now. any opinions would be greatly appreciated.


I have been training now for 3 years and the last 2 years I have had a great diet for cutting and bulking cycles and im and made some great gains but for the last 6 months I have made very little gains even with eating 4000 calories of good food. i am 5'11 and was 81kg before i started the cycle at about 12% bf.

[The Bear 79]

Stop & PCT NOW (Nolva / Clomid) Glad 2 c u come 2 ur senses bro. After ur PCT (a month or so) go get full panel blood work done.

[Shol'va]

Stop & PCT NOW (Nolva / Clomid) Glad 2 c u come 2 ur senses bro. After ur PCT (a month or so) go get full panel blood work done.

I was going to say the same thing but since he is already halfway through his cycle he might as well finish it as he is anyways. He won't listen to you. I could be off base. but his mind is already set otherwise he would have asked before even starting the cycle.......

[The Bear 79]

I was going to say the same thing but since he is already halfway through his cycle he might as well finish it as he is anyways. He won't listen to you. I could be off base. but his mind is already set otherwise he would have asked before even starting the cycle.......

Ur probably rite, but I'll @ least mak the effort. I figure if he PCT's NOW & reduces the length of his shut down, there MAY b less damage....................maybe.

[Tres']

The old dogs are going to tell you to get off it. Your endo system isn't fully developed till your 25...your only going to screw yourself up.

[Shol'va]

Well I don't know what others will tell you but since you are 19 it's a little too early to do cycles, but since you are already halfway through one and you have everything necessary on hand for pct as well and you have a plan and are aware how to take it all you might as well finish your cycle and follow up with the proper dosage on your pct. What's done is done. IMO

[terraj]

If you are not a troll....

Please tell me how you have planned your PCT. How are you using the HCG?

[Tomz]

For PCT i was just going to use nolva/clomid for 4 weeks after 2 weeks from last injection and leave the HCG out as ive read that just clomid and nolva should be enough. Im not set on finishing the cycle i was just wondering if all the damage has been done already and there was any point to stopping. i already regret starting it. with the full blood panel can you do that through your normal doctor?

[hankdiesel]

For PCT i was just going to use nolva/clomid for 4 weeks after 2 weeks from last injection and leave the HCG out as ive read that just clomid and nolva should be enough. Im not set on finishing the cycle i was just wondering if all the damage has been done already and there was any point to stopping. i already regret starting it. with the full blood panel can you do that through your normal doctor?

Why did u buy the hcg then? Your story doesn't make sense. Go get a life.

[Swifto]

For PCT i was just going to use nolva/clomid for 4 weeks after 2 weeks from last injection and leave the HCG out as ive read that just clomid and nolva should be enough. Im not set on finishing the cycle i was just wondering if all the damage has been done already and there was any point to stopping. i already regret starting it. with the full blood panel can you do that through your normal doctor?

After 5 weeks as that dose, you have been fully shutdown for about 2-3 weeks, which isnt long, but its still a shock to the system.

NEVER leave HCG out when you cycle by the way, its imperitive. If you cant get any, dont cycle. Simple as that.

If you decide to carry on, get some HCG. You're going to need it.

1000-1500ius 2x week for about 5 shots proir to starting PCT. You should also be using an AI on cycle.

PCT 5-6 weeks, Tamox/Clomid combo. frontload both at double the dose for week 1.

[user12345]

I don't believe this post is authentic. There have been a bunch of these lately.

[dec11]

I don't believe this post is authentic. There have been a bunch of these lately.

says someone who has supposedly only been here 12 days?

[The Bishop]

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[cro]

thats what i was thinking..

says someone who has supposedly only been here 12 days?

[Times Roman]

I am currently doing a 10 week test e cycle at 500mg a week. im at week 5 now and noticing great strength and weight gains about 4kgs already. I am just now thinking that I may have started too early and dont want to cause myself damage for later on. I have adex, nolva, clomid and hcg all at hand for my pct. i was wondering on everyones thoughts on weather i should continue for the the rest of the cycle or stop and start pct now. any opinions would be greatly appreciated.


I have been training now for 3 years and the last 2 years I have had a great diet for cutting and bulking cycles and im and made some great gains but for the last 6 months I have made very little gains even with eating 4000 calories of good food. i am 5'11 and was 81kg before i started the cycle at about 12% bf.

No disrespect mate
but stop now and pct. in 6 years or so after your hormonal system has fully developed, then you may want to consider. but not before. it aint worth jackin your health
Good luck
---Roman

[3863]

No disrespect mate
but stop now and pct. in 6 years or so after your hormonal system has fully developed, then you may want to consider. but not before. it aint worth jackin your health
Good luck
---Roman

I agree, unless he's a competititve bodybuilder. There is no point in using steroids at this age.

I did but I was very serious about boybuilding 12 years ago.

Hit the food hard, train you ass off and you will grow. Eat, sleep, train!!

[dec11]

No disrespect mate
but stop now and pct. in 6 years or so after your hormonal system has fully developed, then you may want to consider. but not before. it aint worth jackin your health
Good luck
---Roman

listen to this OP

[bjohnson1968]

IMHO..the only good advice at this at this point is to stop the cycle...run your full pct

could you outline your planned pct with doses?

[Tomz]

I have stopped and started will start pct in 2 weeks. For it i will run at 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20. Is there any chance that i have done minimal or no damage from just a
5w cycle? i will get a blood test in 6 weeks and update with the results. im so annoyed that i even started the cycle. this was a real post sorry if i was unclear with what i ment by having hcg i bought it becuase i would rather have everything then be trying to get stuff during a cycle and i have people who would use it if i didnt.

thanks to everyone for your help i really appreciate it

[bjohnson1968]

smart choice...glad to see someone listen

nobody can tell you if you have done any permanent damage...follow your pct then get your blood work to get your answer

Peace

[Far from massive]

While I agree that no one can say for sure. Most likely you will be fine, at 5 weeks Test E is just finishing building in your system so its only been shutdown hard for a few weeks.

Glad to hear of your wise decision, good luck with your recovery.

Also maybe some others can pitch in but I would seriously lower your PCT dosages, something like.

Nolva 20mg ED for first 3 wks then 10 for last wk

Clomid 50mg ED for first 3 wks then 25 for last wk

If you go with the high doses you had mentioned earlier you not only greatly increase your risk of sides, but you will probably have great results (test levels etc) during PCT then fall on your face upon cessation of usage

[Flier]

Ending your cycle was a very good decision.
Running the full course would have had a much greater impact on your HPTA.
Did your balls shrink at all?

Thing is, your Pituitary does not shut down with the first pin. Your Leydig cells does not immediately shut down. You may even still be producing a little LH. Unknown without BW. What I´m getting at is, those PCT meds are are some seriously harsh hormone stimulating compounds, and come with it´s own sides. To be used for someone who is completely shut down, and need help jumpstarting the pit. Your Pit. has been affected and most likely reduced LH production for about 4-5 weeks, and you´re only 19.....your Pit, if healthy, should be ready to start production again.
I would personally not do any PCT, but do BW 3-4 weeks post last pin, and pay close attention to how I felt (mood, energy, erection etc).
Do some research, come to your own conclusion.

[Swifto]

Ending your cycle was a very good decision.
Running the full course would have had a much greater impact on your HPTA.
Did your balls shrink at all?

Thing is, your Pituitary does not shut down with the first pin. Your Leydig cells does not immediately shut down. You may even still be producing a little LH. Unknown without BW. What I´m getting at is, those PCT meds are are some seriously harsh hormone stimulating compounds, and come with it´s own sides. To be used for someone who is completely shut down, and need help jumpstarting the pit. Your Pit. has been affected and most likely reduced LH production for about 4-5 weeks, and you´re only 19.....your Pit, if healthy, should be ready to start production again.
I would personally not do any PCT, but do BW 3-4 weeks post last pin, and pay close attention to how I felt (mood, energy, erection etc).
Do some research, come to your own conclusion.

He absolutely should be using SERMs to aid is body come off of steroids and restart endogenous testosterone production. What positive do you get from NOT doing a PCT after shutting down the PCT, even if its mild?

[Tomz]

Yep my balls have shrunk over the last 2-3 weeks. I'll have a look around to see what I can find on pct but I will either run none or cut the dosages down alot. So if I got bloodwork done 4 weeks after last pin should I follow that up with another test 7-8 weeks after last pin after aswell?

[Tomz]

So with you suggesting 5-6 week pct what kind of dosages would you use for it? I'm not going to carry made my decision to stop. Any tips on keeping muscle during pct?

[Flier]

He absolutely should be using SERMs to aid is body come off of steroids and restart endogenous testosterone production. What positive do you get from NOT doing a PCT after shutting down the PCT, even if its mild?

Obviously no need to discuss PCT protocol with the most knowledgeable member on the subject.
I am just assuming given his age, and the short amount shut down, his production would restart just as fast without.
By taking the PCT meds, he may experience the sides, (emotional, ED due to lack of Estradiol..etc), and he would further disrupt homeostasis for another 4 weeks.

So with you suggesting 5-6 week pct what kind of dosages would you use for it? I'm not going to carry made my decision to stop. Any tips on keeping muscle during pct?

If you decide to, 4 weeks of Clomid/Nolva 50/20.
But Swifto is the PCT guru around here.

[sir.solidarity]

With what appears to be everyone.

Stop and PCT, you should maintain that gains that you've obtained. (Wordsmith motherf*cker)

You may very well be alright in terms of endocrine health but if you continue you're really asking for long term damage.

Goodluck!

[Tomz]

It's been a week since last pin now. Thanks for everyones advice hopefully I won't have done too much damage. I wont grow in terms of height again either will I?

[stpete]

Hard to tell about your height. Everyone's different. But you made the right decision in stopping cycle.

[flyinghoe]

Good job listening to the seasoned users and stopping your cycle. you are far too young to cycle. hard to see 18-20 year olds these days that arent so stubborn.