1st cycle test only

[TFf]

Hello all Im planning on starting my first cycle of test E 250mg/week with . 25 armidex eod and running clomid and nolvadex 100/50/50 40/20/20
I'm 26 5'8" 185 (leaned out from 210) been training for 13 years
Any suggestions?
Also I know alot of people will say never run less than 400mg of test a week and I also knowers ally know a few people who have seen great results from 250mg/week
Thanks!

[felk87]

Hello all Im planning on starting my first cycle of test E 250mg/week with . 25 armidex eod and running clomid and nolvadex 100/50/50 40/20/20
I'm 26 5'8" 185 (leaned out from 210) been training for 13 years
Any suggestions?
Also I know alot of people will say never run less than 400mg of test a week and I also knowers ally know a few people who have seen great results from 250mg/week
Thanks!

Im not sure man i hear 250mg pw will mainly shut you down and can maybe help you maintain your own body weight and muscle, but as far as results, you wont see much from what i have read. And if you do decide to run only 250mg pw i doubt youll need .25 eod of adex. Maybe rethink your cycle and get a vet to tell you what to dose.

[TFf]

Thanks felk. Looking to the adex just to
Combat bloating.. Not sure if bloating would be an issue with only 250/wk I'm open to any suggestions and willing to use more just trying to keep dosing low for my first cycle and minimize sides

[Times Roman]

Welcome to the board mate!

250mg/week of test is barely above TRT levels, and certainly not in the realm where weight lifters typically would like it. Yes, you can see some results at the dose you suggest. I believe body normally produces between 50 and 70mg/week, so you are suggesting an additional 200mg/week or so. Your dose will shut you down and produce all the sides a regular cycle will give you, maybe just not as much.

I appreciate your being cautious, and this is certainly a wise decision. However, a standard cyle of test e would be about 12 weeks at 500mg/week.

Let me know how it goes if you do decide to run the 250mg/week and what gains you can attribute to the cycle. I'd be interested to find out.

Cheers!~
---Roman

[TFf]

Thanks roman!
At 500/week you would pin manday and Thursday? Does anyone ever do all 500 in one injection?
Would you agree with the .25 adex and previously mentioned pct?

[stpete]

Since you will be using AAS, i would assume you would want to see some nice results. Of course alongside a solid diet and training routine. That being said, 500mgs is my suggestion. Shot on monday and thursday would be fine. I'd run that PCT for one more week.

[TFf]

Yeah def want results just not wanting to Advertise I'm useing. so for pct clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20 and have some nolva on hand for other sides. Any take on the .25 eod a dex?

[ajordana]

400+ a week is optimal. and twice a week pins is even more optimal. 250/wk, no doubt youd see some gains, but like above mentioned it isnt a WHOLE LOT over natural test production.. 500/wk isnt going to give you much more chanc e of sides than 250, and the gains you see from 500 over the gains on 250 will be MUCH MUCH better.. go for the 500/wk, pin every monday and thursday, have a diet in check and youll be gtg.. you could do once a week injections if you must and still have good results, but you may feel a little bit of a slow down by the 6th day, monday and thursday works great 250 monday and 250 thursday! and for the pct, id up it to 4 weeks. nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 50/50/50/50 started 14 days after last pin.

[scorpion62]

Info on your AI TFf http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.TxhJRvkwJ8E and your PCT is sound

[TFf]

Thanks guys! For pct run clomid at 50 a day for 4 weeks or 100 a day for the first 2 weeks and then 50 for 2 weeks? Also any see the need for HCG here?