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    Is this a good first cycle?

    Im new here. just ahve some questions. my only cycle was the famous D bol only cycle for 3 weeks. strength went up like crazy, blah blah blah, lost most of the gains at the end. im about to do a test/decca cycle. im thinking of only doing test just to see how that goes, and maybe add the decca in if i want to cycle again. i have nolva for PCT

    Im 5''10
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    22 years old.

    bench 265
    deadlift 355
    squat 295

    estimated calorie in take around 4000. of all clean carbs/food. no sweets. dont smoke or drink at all.

    How much do you guys think of test would be good to start? i was planning on 500 a week. 250 monday and 250 thursday.
    im not sure what type of test it is either.
    how long should i be on the cycle for?

    I know im young and have only been training a little while. im stil lgonna do the cycle regardless. so any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    0 mg ED is a good start at your age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cablecord266 View Post
    Im new here. just ahve some questions. my only cycle was the famous D bol only cycle for 3 weeks. strength went up like crazy, blah blah blah, lost most of the gains at the end. im about to do a test/decca cycle. im thinking of only doing test just to see how that goes, and maybe add the decca in if i want to cycle again. i have nolva for PCT

    Im 5''10
    190 pounds
    training almost 2 years.
    22 years old.

    bench 265
    deadlift 355
    squat 295

    estimated calorie in take around 4000. of all clean carbs/food. no sweets. dont smoke or drink at all.

    How much do you guys think of test would be good to start? i was planning on 500 a week. 250 monday and 250 thursday.
    im not sure what type of test it is either.
    how long should i be on the cycle for?




    I know im young and have only been training a little while. im stil lgonna do the cycle regardless. so any help would be greatly appreciated.


    I didn't know that was a famous cycle. You should hold off for a while bro, do some reading and learn a bit. It will help you out in the long run

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    Your going to do it anyway so may as well do it right and providing your bodyfat isn't high, you seem to have decent idea of diet so.....

    Test for 12 weeks

    A.I on cycle to regulate estrogen, armidex .25mg eod or aromasin 12.5mg eod, both available from sponser

    Pct starts 14 days after last pin

    Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 so 40mg ed fot first 2 weeks then drop to 20mg

    Clomid 50/50/25/25

    Again these are available from sponsor as liquid orals

    These are essential and you can't cycle safely without the above, swifto has a sticky at top of Q&A about a.i and why its necessary and there is a pct section full of info on the SERMS (nolva/clomid) if you want to learn more about what your going to be taking

    Best of luck

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    Do some research your knowledge is lacking.After all its your body and you should know wat you are doing.

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    I have to say I love austinites reply the best lmao and its prob the best advice given here imo

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    All i have is nolva. is that good enough? And ive been doing ALOT of research everyday on the computer about peoples cycles, experience, what they do. etc. Yes, it is my first real cycle and i have alot to learn, but gotta start somewhere right? and why i say the 'famous d bol only cycle'. is cuz alot of people do it their first time, and quickly learn its pointless. I dont have armidex or aromasin. im hoping ill be ok with just what i have. if i croak, then i croak. I used to be a heroin addict and do mad pills. i dont think a cycle of test is gonna kill me. No its probly not a good idea because of my past history with pills, heroin, etc. but im doing it just to see what this shit is all about.

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    Nolva isn't enough, I don't know if your messing or not but using an a.i or not using one isn't life and death, but it can be difference between growing bitch tits which is prob worse then death lol

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    lol. i dont see myself growing boobs, just cause of my diet and cardio and whatnot. if i can ill get some. and yea i agree the last thing i want is bitch tits. ill get some clomid too then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cablecord266 View Post
    lol. i dont see myself growing boobs, just cause of my diet and cardio and whatnot. if i can ill get some. and yea i agree the last thing i want is bitch tits. ill get some clomid too then.
    diet and cardio have no effect on gyno, its caused by estrogen

    seriously you need to read alot more before you start this or there a chance you will fvck yourself up

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    best to wait a few more yrs.

    if you really can't wait, best to not touch deca yet.

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    thanks for the advice guys. and yea im gonna hold off on the deca. and just run test

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    how much of a chance is there that i will get gyno?

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    It varys, some people are virtually guranteed it if they don't use an a.I

    Some people can get away with low dose or no a.i depending on what and how much they run

    Do you really want to risk it?

    Gyno ain't the only side effect either but its prob one of the worst

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    mm forgot about post number 7 lololol just do test heroin is very very nasty and recks your insides bud but test might do you proud!

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    spots/hair/sleep/depression et etc i have got away with no ai in the past but again never knew what i knew now so wouldnt go without one arimidex or aromasin will do you proud bud!

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    you can get your ai and clomid from the banner ar-r

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    so what exactly is gyno? and yea heroin for 4 years did me no good. but i went to jail, starting working out in their, and now i workout 5-6 days a week, its like my new high. im just curious to see what roids are like, what they do, and what i will gain. addictive personality i guess. and bob, is ar-r legit???

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    ar-r is sweet and gyno is bitch tits and with good diet ull gain nicely m8!

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    yea i aint gettin no bitch tits. my chest is nice and sculpted right now, that would suck if i did. and yea my diet is on point.

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