your thoughts on cycle

[gymstyle87]

well first off im new here, so ill give you all the info that im assuming you will all want after reading a few.

i am 25, 210 6ft 8-10%bf, working out for 9 years my diet is good. this will be my 5th cycle my other cycles are 1st deca300 test e 250. 2nd test e500. 3rd dbol, test cyp 500. 4th is test e 500. 12 weeks all of them with nova and colmid as pct. let me know if you would like to know anything else..

so for my 5th cycle this is my thought. test e 500 once a week for 12 weeks, tren 100 eod for first 6 weeks, adex eod .5 or 1mg (lmk what you think please) with nova and clomid as pct

oh yeah my goals are to gain 15-20 lbs

[SoldierBull]

Dbol 50mgs ed wk 1-4
Test e500 wk 1-8
Test e750 wk 8-12 Nolva on hand and as needed throughout...
Tren a100 wk 8-13
PCT normal protocal for long ester test

Your body is reaching h-stasis by week 8 and the last couple weeks of your cycle without boosting up are futile...

The boost of test the last 4 weeks with increased calories will boost much more gains... Plus the addition of tren - Forget about it!! You will probably see much more impressive gains and body composition at the end of this cycle!!

Take it easy,
SB

[gymstyle87]

Dbol 50mgs ed wk 1-4
Test e500 wk 1-8
Test e750 wk 8-12 Nolva on hand and as needed throughout...
Tren a100 wk 8-13
PCT normal protocal for long ester test

Your body is reaching h-stasis by week 8 and the last couple weeks of your cycle without boosting up are futile...

The boost of test the last 4 weeks with increased calories will boost much more gains... Plus the addition of tren - Forget about it!! You will probably see much more impressive gains and body composition at the end of this cycle!!

Take it easy,
SB

thanks, but why wouldn't i take the tren for the first 6 weeks instead of last 5? and should i take adex as .5 or 1 eod

[SoldierBull]

thanks, but why wouldn't i take the tren for the first 6 weeks instead of last 5? and should i take adex as .5 or 1 eod

This pretty much has a blasting effect... Like a whole new cycle..

Tren for the first time I would recommend it ran like this to everybody....

About the 8th week your body will be catching up to the juice naturally.... Add tren and up your test mgs and it will kick your cycle into a whole new gear.... If you want to run a-dex like that there is nothing wrong with that at all... I just always try to keep compounds to a minimum period whether it is ancillaries or gear... Plus this way you will see what added treb is like as apposed to hitting both from the jump.... Its the wat to go bro... Keep me updated...

[Capebuffalo]

Run prop 300mgs per week 8 weeks
Tren A 450 mgs per week 6 weeks (I would pin it ed)
Armidex .25 eod adjust accordingly

[gymstyle87]

Run prop 300mgs per week 8 weeks
Tren A 450 mgs per week 6 weeks (I would pin it ed)
Armidex .25 eod adjust accordingly

i cant get prop, and the tren would be 300 and 400 a week wouldn't 6 weeks of tren at 450 a week for the first time running it be harsh

[Capebuffalo]

i cant get prop, and the tren would be 300 and 400 a week wouldn't 6 weeks of tren at 450 a week for the first time running it be harsh

It will be harsh when ever you run it. I like to let the tren do the work. What do you think 100 mg eod adds up to? Your averaging 350 mg. Start with that then and see how you handle it. I would run it ed IMO and my experience. If its A not E.

[jimmyinkedup]

It fine just pin test e 2x/week imo. Not a major deal but i'd recommend it.
pct nolva/clomid ...a stand by for me for years.
Start pct 2 weeks post final test e inj.
adex .5 eod is perfect for me at a test dose of 500mgs/week btw ....
Best of luck . you should log it here so we can see how it goes.

[gymstyle87]

Capebuffalo yeah 350 would be the avg of that but every day sticking would blow doesn't it? what did you like about ed over eod just not putting as much in at a time? it will be A

jimmyinkedup so your saying 250 test e twice a week? nolva/clomid is all iv done also. iv never done adex i got a 60ml bottle of it, im assuming from looking thru some other posts that you dont inject it that its orally taken, is that correct? yeah ill def keep a log on here and thanks for the advice

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^I used to run tren on the back end..did it for years. Thought / felt the same as you.
Over time what ive found is its far better on the front end..gains are substantially greater and with adequate test dose you will easily maintain the mass through the remainder of the cycle. In other words ultimately my gains are now greater running it front end.
Just my experience.

gym - Yes adex is taken orally.
Be looking for your log

[warmouth]

From reading over Atominis thread, I would use Test P @50mg EOD or 250mgs Cyp. Then the Tren at 75-100mgs EOD through the whole cycle. Hopefully I will be able to run this cycle myself one day! Id Like Prop at150mgs week,Tren at 400mgs a week.

[SoldierBull]

Tren is very case sensative IMO

In my case I felt pretty much all sides... No sleep, cough, sweats and an angry Heman complex. Where as my bestfriend only got a slight cough which never even sounded genuine.

This is why I recommend tren at the end if you are on your first run. So you can decipher the differences and the test is strong in your blood. .... But dont get me wrong Jimmy there are distinct changes in the cycle from starting out with it - negative and positive.

[jimmyinkedup]

^^ One things for sure in this game there are no absolutes. Diff things work for different people - no doubt about it.

[gymstyle87]

sorry for the delay in response, but thanks for the info. should be pinning next week cant wait to start up again and hit tren for the first time

[t-dogg]

Atonmi has a great stickie on using Tren right above us in this section. Read that.