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    test cypionate first cycle

    hi guys, i am going to start a test cypionate cycle in around 5weeks just want to know your opinion on my cycle.

    first of all my stats are

    age-26
    weight-178pounds
    training for-5/6years
    height-5'9/5'10

    ok so the cycle i am proposing is
    testosterone cypionate weeks 1-12-400mg/week split by 2injections, on a sunday morning and a wednesday midday/evening
    i want to run proviron while on cycle 25mg EOD weeks 1-14 i.e. until i begin my pct 2weeks after my last test cyp shot

    pct
    week 14-18 nolvadex 50/40/30/20 or 40/40/30/20 or i could run it for 5weeks in a different combination i have 100x10mg tablets wondering your opinion which combination is the best
    week 14-18 clomid 50/50/25/25

    the lab for all my products is genesis rejuvenation

    my diet is composed of

    346carbs/252protein/96fat totalling 3419 calories (around 700calories above my BMR)

    i train 4times a week with shoulders on monday
    legs and abs tuesday
    chest triceps thursday
    back and biceps on saturday

    would like your opinions please and thank you in advance

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    i would use an ai on cycle instead of proviron
    nolva i would do 40/40/20/20
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    which ai do you recommend, as im sure proviron does compete for the binding sites of estrogen on breast tissue or am i mistaken

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i would use an ai on cycle instead of proviron
    nolva i would do 40/40/20/20
    will do, what dosage of aromasin would you recommend and for what length i.e. from week 1-12 or 1-14 (week 12 being my last pin, week 14 being when i start my PCT)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayman21 View Post
    will do, what dosage of aromasin would you recommend and for what length i.e. from week 1-12 or 1-14 (week 12 being my last pin, week 14 being when i start my PCT)
    you start your pct 14 days after your last injection not week 14
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    you start your pct 14 days after your last injection not week 14
    true sorry, rookie mistake lol

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    Proviron won't cut it for a moderate test cycle. You need Armidex or Aromasin. You can still use Proviron but at 50mg a day. It is very weak 25mg EOD would be no benefit. Also get some HCG and run it 500iu x2 per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohim View Post
    Proviron won't cut it for a moderate test cycle. You need Armidex or Aromasin. You can still use Proviron but at 50mg a day. It is very weak 25mg EOD would be no benefit. Also get some HCG and run it 500iu x2 per week.
    thank you, what dosage would you recommend the aromasin on and for week 1-14 or jus 1-12?

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    I would start aromasin at 12.5mg eod. and for 14 weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    I would start aromasin at 12.5mg eod. and for 14 weeks
    i have arimidex, what dosage of this should i do
    Last edited by rayman21; 08-26-2012 at 12:50 PM. Reason: got confused with arimidex and aromasin

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    will crush the arimidex into quarter pieces
    Last edited by rayman21; 08-26-2012 at 12:57 PM. Reason: discused prices by acident

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    Aromasin at 12.5 EOD pr Adex at .25 EOD to start!

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    please edit your post. we dont talk prices. order from a research company or yes break them apart but breaking 1mg pills in 1/4's is hard
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    please edit your post. we dont talk prices. order from a research company or yes break them apart but breaking 1mg pills in 1/4's is hard
    sorry about that, but ive read elsewhere that running adex throughout the course may minimise the gains. should i just have it on hand and if i begin developing gyno symptoms i.e. itchy nipples then begin taking it or should i just take the .25mg eod? you have 28,000+ posts, i trust your judgement

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    you will not hurt your gains if you keep your estrogen in the normal ranges. You need estrogen to grow but dont need raised levels. It can hinder gains if you take to much
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    you will not hurt your gains if you keep your estrogen in the normal ranges. You need estrogen to grow but dont need raised levels. It can hinder gains if you take to much
    so just stick to the .25 eod then on course?

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    start at that. adjust it if you need to. everyone is different
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    start at that. adjust it if you need to. everyone is different
    ok, and for pct nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 50/50/25/25?

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    looks good
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