Help needed asap!!

[boxer08]

Ran a cycle fotr 12 weeks which had sust, id usually start my pct 21 days after last injection but due to falling ill was delayed by another 4 weeks so thats 7 altogether. Im now on day 7 of my pct but it dosen't seem to be working....ive got a low sex drive, unable to achieve a erection, low energy levels, nipples are tender and am holding fat on the chest and if i squeeze the nipple it has a clear sunstance. Testicles are alomost non existent as well....can anyone help

[Sworder]

Take an AI, your estrogen is too high. Your T won't return when you have high estrogen. This is why it can be very beneficial to run an AI during PCT!!!

[boxer08]

What should i use aswell as the nilva and clomid, i have arimidex but read it aint a good idea. What is the clear liguid and how long till symptoms dissapear

[Phased]

What should i use aswell as the nilva and clomid, i have arimidex but read it aint a good idea. What is the clear liguid and how long till symptoms dissapear

The clear liquid is discharge from gynocomastia.

[Sworder]

Why would it be a bad idea to get your estrogen in the low range of normal? It is beneficial and there are tons of studies to prove this increases T production. Estrogen is much more suppressive than exogenous testosterone.

[Phased]

Get some raloxifine and clomid ASAP. As well as HCG
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Dosages for raloxifine
Start at 80mg Ed

Clomid 70/70/35/35/35
Raloxifine 80/80/60/60/60

Hcg
1000iu a week for 6 weeks.

500iu Monday and Thursday

[boxer08]

Im currently on day 7 of tmy clomid and nolva should i continue to run these 2? Dosages are clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20 I thought that it was a bad idea to use hcg during pct?? Is arimidex okay

[Phased]

Im currently on day 7 of tmy clomid and nolva should i continue to run these 2? Dosages are clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20 I thought that it was a bad idea to use hcg during pct?? Is arimidex okay

No it's not bad, your shutdown hard, we need to restart you and get rid of that Gyno. An AI is only going to do so much for PCT Gyno, the nolvadex is going to take care of the rest. I think you need raloxifine though.

Reduce the adex to .5mg EOD

[Bouch]

Get some raloxifine and clomid ASAP. As well as HCG
Ar-r.com

Dosages for raloxifine
Start at 80mg Ed

Clomid 70/70/35/35/35
Raloxifine 80/80/60/60/60

Hcg
1000iu a week for 6 weeks.

500iu Monday and Thursday

Boxer here is Phased outline again. Stay on what you have on hand for now, hopefully you already ordered the items you dont have, best of luck to you. keep us posted

[frank13]

i would take the arimidex with your pct i wouldn't take the hcg see what happens in the next couple weeks

[frank13]

i would take the arimidex with your pct i wouldn't take the hcg see what happens in the next couple weeks

i thought my advice from the beginning was fine but excuse me

[manveer1]

i thought my advice from the beginning was fine but excuse me

Man up

[frank13]

Man up

??..

[Phased]

Correction

[boxer08]

Thought it was 21 after sust...

[boxer08]

What dosage of arimidex? Whats the difference between the raloxifine and nolva

[frank13]

What dosage of arimidex? Whats the difference between the and nolva

from my under standing raloxifine is a little stronger

[Phased]

What dosage of arimidex? Whats the difference between the raloxifine and nolva

I posted it above .5mg EOD
Nolvadex and raloxifine are both SERMS, Raloxifine has less sides are more potent then nolvadex. It's a second generation SERM just like nolvadex but much more effective in reversing Gyno.

[boxer08]

Cheers can they deliver to the uk

[frank13]

i would say Arimidex 1mg to 1/2mg ed till no more sestivity then 1/2mg eod till end of pct

[frank13]

at least thats wut i would do

[boxer08]

Nolva makes a-dex weaker what can i do about this

[Phased]

Nolva makes a-dex weaker what can i do about this

Your not reversing it with adex. Your gonna reverse it with raloxifine.

[Sworder]

Your not reversing it with adex. Your gonna reverse it with raloxifine.

Correct, adex is only for estrogen control. Doesn't do anything for gyno reversal.

[boxer08]

Correct, adex is only for estrogen control. Doesn't do anything for gyno reversal.

What should my pct look like

[boxer08]

So i drop the nolva when the raloxifine comes? I aint going to get it ill im on around week 3 of my pct is there any point of starting it then

[Lunk1]

Your not reversing it with adex. Your gonna reverse it with raloxifine.

We are talking prolactin related gyn here right??? Adex won't help at this point Frank. If he would have been able to keep estro down through cycle then he could have DECREASED his chances of prolactin build up. Now that it's there a reversal must occur.

Phased..how bout redux???

[frank13]

We are talking prolactin related gyn here right??? Adex won't help at this point Frank. If he would have been able to keep estro down through cycle then he could have DECREASED his chances of prolactin build up. Now that it's there a reversal must occur.

Phased..how bout redux???

yea i understand that but wouldn't it help to get estro down right now

[Lunk1]

yea i understand that but wouldn't it help to get estro down right now

Well yes but I believe (could be wrong..no gyno expert) that the adex would need to be stopped to treat the existing prolactin gyno. So if thats the case then it would make no sense to mess with Adex and just concentrate on the reversal. Again..no expert here!!!!!

[Dpyle]

If I'm not mistaken, due to the nipple discharge you are having prolactin issues. An ai will not help with this. It's treated with a dopamine agonist such as cabergoline.

Hold tight and a more knowledgeable member should chime in on the issue with more info than I can provide.

[Sworder]

Phased posted above!

Did you run tren in the cycle ?

[Lunk1]

Phased posted above!

Did you run tren in the cycle ?

Hah...was thinking the same thing..notice op said he ran a cycle with SUS in it???
Although any AAS CAN cause prolactin! I wondered if tren may be the culprit???

[Phased]

We are talking prolactin related gyn here right??? Adex won't help at this point Frank. If he would have been able to keep estro down through cycle then he could have DECREASED his chances of prolactin build up. Now that it's there a reversal must occur.

Phased..how bout redux???

Driving right now bb in bit

[boxer08]

no tren was run during cycle it was sust deca and proviron wish i had used the a dex over proviron now

[Sworder]

no tren was run during cycle it was sust deca and proviron wish i had used the a dex over proviron now

I am going to be crudely honest and say that prolactin induced gyno is a myth that exists only on steroid forums.

Run the PCT Phased suggested, use the AI to reduce your estrogen. You should be able to tell how bloated you are as you are fairly lean.

[boxer08]

what should i do till the raloxifine arrives

[Lunk1]

I am going to be crudely honest and say that prolactin induced gyno is a myth that exists only on steroid forums.

Run the PCT Phased suggested, use the AI to reduce your estrogen. You should be able to tell how bloated you are as you are fairly lean.

Call it what you wnat...gyno or otherwise but the leakt nips is definetly prolactin related...

[Phased]

I am going to be crudely honest and say that prolactin induced gyno is a myth that exists only on steroid forums.

Run the PCT Phased suggested, use the AI to reduce your estrogen. You should be able to tell how bloated you are as you are fairly lean.

Yes we can be speculation for 5 pages and he can be confused more or he can follow the guideline I outlined and fix it now.

[Sworder]

Yes we can be speculation for 5 pages and he can be confused more or he can follow the guideline I outlined and fix it now.

I agree, which is why I suggest him to follow your PCT. Getting too many opinions now and random comments about prolactin gyno taking caber.

Follow Phased PCT! I am out

[Phased]

Estrogen should be able to be taken down in low range of normal in a week MAX! I do it overnight 2.5mg letro next day I wake up ripped without the low estrogen sides, but you have to know your own body to do this.

^^^Advanced concept and application..
Best