Basic Masteron questions

[ChiveOn]

So I was looking into mast as a part of my next cycle with test prop and winny oral.
I've never used Masteron before and I've been reading a bit but I see dosages all over the place.
I'm months out from this cycle but I'd appreciate some critique on my dosing for mast vs test as I believe my numbers would be off. I can post up stats, ai, pct, etc if you really need it but this is a real rough draft and when I get things finalized ill put it up fully

Wk 1-8
Test prop 150mg EoD
Mast 150mg EoD
Winny 100 ED

Should I have a higher ratio of test to mast?

[redz]

Test doesnt need to be higher than Mast. Whats your bf%? Mast is not very noticeable unless youa re really low bf also why use Winny and Mast? they are both DHT's will you be injecting the winny?

[Lunk1]

Mast is most effective for me between 600-800 mg EW!

[MickeyKnox]

What is your BF Chive?

[ChiveOn]

Also I'm at 192lbs 6'0

[ChiveOn]

And as far as them both being DHTs I'm aware of that. But would it make it pointless to use both? The winny would be an oral as the injectable is much more expensive with my source. Realistically by the time I start ill be right around 185lbs 12% bf. I'm looking to put on 10lbs or less and just keep it lean and ripped for the season. Ill be going on a deployment with the military about two months after the planned end of cycle so I can't go over my weight limit at 203 and its pointless to get much under 10% bf as it won't really do any good for me

[ChiveOn]

I'm currently right around 13-14% def under 15. I've got a few months before cyclin again and it's summer time so naturally ill be cutting fat like a mofo. Last summer I stuck right around 10% so I know I can get sub 12 before I start.

[stpete]

When people say winny, it usually means oral. Is this the case w/you as well? You gonna be using anything else other than said compounds?

[ChiveOn]

When people say winny, it usually means oral. Is this the case w/you as well? You gonna be using anything else other than said compounds?

Just adex .25 EoD, HCG 250iu 2x wk. MAYBE some clen in cycle or before just to keep it low but that's more of just a thought in the back of my head than anything

[MickeyKnox]

Ok. Usually with Mast your BF should be as low as possible for it to shine. And as Lunk indicated, you have to dose it fairly high. It's one of those higher end (expensive) compounds because of the amount required in your cycle.

[ChiveOn]

Also, I'm looking at splitting the dosage appropriately and pinning it ED. I have no problem keepin up with so many pins and I'm looking forward to learning how to pin more than jut glutes and delts for this.
I'm just not a fan the idea of 3ml at a time. Would it make a difference doin it this way vs EoD? Doubt it but that's based on nothing so I may as well ask

[Lunk1]

Also, I'm looking at splitting the dosage appropriately and pinning it ED. I have no problem keepin up with so many pins and I'm looking forward to learning how to pin more than jut glutes and delts for this.
I'm just not a fan the idea of 3ml at a time. Would it make a difference doin it this way vs EoD? Doubt it but that's based on nothing so I may as well ask

ED is fine if you dont mind the sticks!

[ChiveOn]

And this dosing will put me at 525mg/wk on mast. Is the general consensus to up it more?

[Lunk1]

And this dosing will put me at 525mg/wk on mast. Is the general consensus to up it more?

500 would be a min. I would run!

[ChiveOn]

500 would be a min. I would run!

Sounds good. Ill bump it to 600/wk. I just don't think I can really afford much more

[ChiveOn]

Good. That's what I was hoping to hear
I always look forward to pin days so this will be fun I'm sure

[Lunk1]

I would just make sure the BF is 12 or under before spending the $ on Mast! It is effective but you will really appreciate it's effects at a lower BF!

[ChiveOn]

I would just make sure the BF is 12 or under before spending the $ on Mast! It is effective but you will really appreciate it's effects at a lower BF!

For sure. My diet was crap in college. When I decided I wanted to cycle was when I really got my shit together lost 33lbs over about 8months with just diet and some extra running. $$$ is at a premium for me so I'm not going to waste a dime. Looking good>pizza lol

[stpete]

So you're going to run 100mgs winny ED? A little excessive isn't it?

[ChiveOn]

I don't think it's too bad. Think I should just leave it at 50 and call it a day?
Or would cutting the winny altogether and putting the mast up around 800 be more beneficial? I'm open to critique and change that's why I'm here asking

[ChiveOn]

Certainly on the high end but is it really too high?

[stpete]

50 is sufficient. All i use anyway....

[MR10X]

Unless your going to get really lean like 4 or 5% then masteron is a total waste of money for you.It would be better spent on something else.

[ChiveOn]

Unless your going to get really lean like 4 or 5% then masteron is a total waste of money for you.It would be better spent on something else.

Not too sure how much stock I'm gonna put into this statement... And by that I def mean little to none. And pretty damn sure lol

[OnTheSauce]

Unless your going to get really lean like 4 or 5% then masteron is a total waste of money for you.It would be better spent on something else.

By your logic all steroids are a waste of money if you aren't competing