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    critique 3rd cycle for cutting and lean muscle mass

    Hcg 250iu 2 times a week
    test e 250mg 3 times a week
    tbol at 60mg ed for first 4-5 weeks

    I will be running either letrozole 25mg eod or exemestane 25mg ed or eod

    I will be doing all new workouts so it switches things up, and obviously eat as clean and plentiful as possible...

    I might run clenbuterol as well.

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    Dude, 25mg of letro would kill you!!!

    Don't run letro, its too harsh!

    Hope you mean ANASTROZOLE = adex 0.25mg/eod.

    Aromasin EXEMESTANE 12,5mg/eod.
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    I meant 2.5mg eod letro or 25mg exemestane eod

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
    I meant 2.5mg eod letro or 25mg exemestane eod
    Good!

    Letro is harsh!

    Get adex or aromasin and do dosages that I wrote above.

    If you'll feel you need more just up the dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    I meant 2.5mg eod letro or 25mg exemestane eod
    Do not run letro, especially at that dosage!!! that dosage would be sufficient for someone on 3000mg of test per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Hcg 250iu 2 times a week
    test e 250mg 3 times a week
    tbol at 60mg ed for first 4-5 weeks

    I will be running either letrozole 25mg eod or exemestane 25mg ed or eod

    I will be doing all new workouts so it switches things up, and obviously eat as clean and plentiful as possible...

    I might run clenbuterol as well.

    I would run Anavar instead of Tbol. Tbol will make you tired and will not harden/cut you up as much as anavar will. If you are looking to cut, CLEN usually makes life miserable when trying to do any sort of cardio. Will make you drop weight though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACKATTACK View Post
    I would run Anavar instead of Tbol. Tbol will make you tired and will not harden/cut you up as much as anavar will. If you are looking to cut, CLEN usually makes life miserable when trying to do any sort of cardio. Will make you drop weight though.
    I was hard as a rock on tbol. For your goals tho I would also choose var because of its fat burning properties that t bol does not have

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    Definitely no Letro! I keep it on hand in case but rarely have had to take it.

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    Using clenbuterol helped my cardio. The only guy I trust that carried anvar I believe just went out of business otherwise I'd have definitely picked that over tbol

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    Would it be beneficial to run some pharma grade proviron as well with this cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Would it be beneficial to run some pharma grade proviron as well with this cycle
    Never ran it but everyone seems to love it at 50mg ED.

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    I agree with the other in swapping the tbol with var, var will be good for your goals. I would also swap to aromasin or a-dex but if you have used letro before and didnt have any issues then run with what worked before

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    I'll wait running anvar. My next and absolute last aas cycle will most likely be test tren and primo

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    Would running proviron at 50mg ed be beneficial tho since I'm already taking tbol as well

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    Ok not gonna run proviron..

    But made some changes so please critique. AI, hcg, and cycle length remain the same

    900mg test e ew
    70mg tbol first 5 weeks
    90mg anvar last 6 weeks

    What you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Ok not gonna run proviron..

    But made some changes so please critique. AI, hcg, and cycle length remain the same

    900mg test e ew
    70mg tbol first 5 weeks
    90mg anvar last 6 weeks

    What you guys think?
    What are your stats and how long have you been lifting?
    That seems too long of a time to run orals, even if you switch up the compounds u are still running an oral for full length of cycle. I think you should only run one oral 4-6 weeks.

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    Looks fine

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    Got my bloodwork and liver is in "excellent condition" and I will be running NAC, Liv52, and UDCA... So my liver can handle the orals this one time. I'm not going to make a habit of it

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    I'm a little confused, I don't think anyone else mentioned this, you originally said 250mg test e 3x a week? How are you doing that when you're supposed to pin it E3.5D. The revised cycle you posted with 900mg test e a week looks a bit much to me. Have you ran that much before?

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    Just going from 250 to 300mg 3 times a week. Yes I've run that much before

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
    Just going from 250 to 300mg 3 times a week. Yes I've run that much before
    Point is, you're supposed to pin test e every 3.5 days. How often are you pinning it? And that much is overkill in my opinion

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    Did you notice a benefit from more test? I went up close to 900 for 60 days and it didn't do any more than 500. Well, I got more bacne from the 900.

    I wouldn't run those orals that long, just my opinion though. But, I am pretty sure they would work pretty well.

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    Okay I'll stick to test e 250mg three times a week...

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
    Okay I'll stick to test e 250mg three times a week...
    What don't you understand about having to pin test e every 3.5 days? How could you do it 3 times a week. You are aware there are 7 days in a week right? I'm not trying to be a dick but I've said this twice before already.

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    Would it matter if I run tbol first then anvar last? Or would it be more beneficial to start off with anvar and then use tbol at end of cycle?

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    I have to pin it 3.5 days says you. I will be pinning it every 2.5 days thank you very much

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
    I have to pin it 3.5 days says you. I will be pinning it every 2.5 days thank you very much
    Let us know how that works out for you. Good luck.

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    Red Hulk... Why are you so strict about adviseavle dosing frequency. Is my dosing protocol way off and possibly dangerous for you
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    Have to change sources so my cycle will be different... Will still be using same products and dosing protocol for AI and hcg...

    1)...3 pins a week of 250mg pharma test e from caspian tamin called Androne 250

    2)...70mg ed of sciroxx turinabol for first 5-6 weeks depending how I respond to tbol..

    3)..I want to run either halotest or anvar for the last 5-6 weeks... Anvar would be 90mg ed... Not sure about halo dosing but off top of my head I'm thinking 40mg ed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Have to change sources so my cycle will be different... Will still be using same products and dosing protocol for AI and hcg...

    1)...3 pins a week of 250mg pharma test e from caspian tamin called Androne 250

    2)...70mg ed of sciroxx turinabol for first 5-6 weeks depending how I respond to tbol..

    3)..I want to run either halotest or anvar for the last 5-6 weeks... Anvar would be 90mg ed... Not sure about halo dosing but off top of my head I'm thinking 40mg ed?
    Your test e is fine, you do not have to pin test e every three days or twice per week. Just don't want to go longer then twice per week.

    No experience with tbol

    That's too long for halo, anavar should be ok for that long.

    I would bump your hcg to 250ius three times per week

    Aromasine at 12.5mg per day, half life on this stuff is short, I don't like eod protocols.

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    Ya I really just want to use halotest low dose for its aggression effects.. But that's a decent hunk of change just for some added aggression

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Ya I really just want to use halotest low dose for its aggression effects.. But that's a decent hunk of change just for some added aggression
    I would say depends on your goals. If cutting is primary then go with the var, if not then try the halo. I think your going to spend more on 90mg of var then 40mg of halo.

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    My goals are to cut cut cut.. I've just read that low doses of Halo can increase aggression so I just wanted to use it as like a pre workout drink kinda

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    Obviously wouldn't be using it ed. More like just 8 times a month

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