About to start 2nd cycle (first was about a year ago). I plan on about 500mg/week, but curious if anyone has thoughts on higher dose at the start. Jump start, or a stupid idea?
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About to start 2nd cycle (first was about a year ago). I plan on about 500mg/week, but curious if anyone has thoughts on higher dose at the start. Jump start, or a stupid idea?
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I used to frontload back in the day. I don't bother with it anymore as my patience grew. Most cases folks either don't frontload properly or don't notice a difference.
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See I didn't even know there was a name for it.
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i think frontloading was bs,, kick in time for a 500mg cycle is the same for a 1000mg cycle so how would doing 1000mg the first week on a 500mg cycle kick it in faster.
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Thanks, appreciate the feedback. Since I have a actual term for it maybe I can also find some other discussions about it as well.
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I've heard of guys jump starting a Enth or Cyp cycle with Prop but I don't know the procedure with that.
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Lots of folks seem to pair test with dbol, I am just going straight test though. Really just not sure what to stack it with or why.
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Prop?
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Testosterone Propionate, Its the shortest ester of test.
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Lots of guys report increased sides with Frontloading. If you want to explore the idea, check out this link..
Frontloading Unraveled
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UMfK46zX_ft
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I'm front loading by taking dbol from the beginning of my test E cycle :-)
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Why did you stack your last cycle with Winny? Same idea, i would think.Originally Posted by BruceB
That's called kick starting, not front loading
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Yup, kick starting if it's separate drug, and frontloading if it's the same.
Oh yeah and on my last cycle (my first one), I didn't use any AI during, just pct. I'm using a little higher test dosage this time, and while I had no sides last time, I'm just wanting to be prepared. I've got liqudex on hand, but I'm not sure when to take it or what dosage. Browsing some forums I have just been enlighted that it is taken orally though. I honestly didn't know that until today.
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Adex is does EOD @ .25mg to begin.
Check this link and you'll get an idea on dosing Bruce.
**Most Common Beginners Cycles**
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs
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^^^ I did the same thing .25mg EOD and it worked great if you start noticing a little bit of sides just up the dose. I bumped my test up and started getting itchy nips,bumped the Dex up to .30-.35 and it went away. I've only done one cycle but that I know an AI is a must.
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You do not need to frontload.
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Eod?
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List of common Abbreviations
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UVTFbzcUX0E
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Roger, thanks Mickey.
Man .25mg is hardly a few drops really. Just measure and squirt it into my shake in the morning?
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no. Drink it directly.
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This ^^
Its 1/4 of a milliliter.
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well yeah I guess it's slightly more than a few drops, but sure not much more lol.
Saw a thread talking about it though and everyone seemed to agree it's better put in something because direct is terrible.
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Shit so today I went to plunge into my leg, finished the dose, held the pin there for about 7 seconds, then when I pulled out I bleed a little. Not a ton but more than a little dot, probably a half ml of blood. Does this mean I lost some of my dose? Do I need to pin again and make up for it?
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Not enough to be concerned. Do not pin again to make up for it. If you're that worried (which you shouldn't be), look up how to inject using the Z-Track method.
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That's instead of all the other methods from A through Y.
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LOL, yeah, trial and error! 25 fails before you get it right.That's instead of all the other methods from A through Y.
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Alright I'll see if I can find it. Never heard of it.
I appreciate the quick reply. I didn't have time to come say thanks but I saw it on my email and it calmed me down a little bit. It really worried me. I am not sure why it bled, usually it's just a little dot (or no blood at all). This wasn't gushing or anything, but enough to run down my leg and a drop hit the floor.
My mistake is probably pinning in the leg the morning after leg day.
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So I'm getting a little puffy, especially in my left nip for some reason. I've got a few AI's on hand. I've been taking about .3mgs of liquidex EOD, and I have letro and climo on hand but I'm not sure which to try or how much. Any advice?
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