appreicate some cycle review/feedback

[miked187]

Haven't done an intro yet, so I'll do a brief one here to set the table.

55yrs young, been on weekly 1cc Test-C injections since Feb '13. Natural total T tested at 660 prior to starting in Feb, convinced my doc that I wanted more Total T pending testing, the target was ~1000. 1.5cc's weekly till blood tests. First was trough at 750, second was peak at 1290. Dropped to 1cc and have sat there for a few months now. No issues with gyno or backne, some testicle shrinkage but I still have good size. On and off Clomid and Anastrozole over the time. I did blood work on Monday, no results yet.

6'4" 233#, BF 18.9% last week tested with plastic calipers, 3 reads each over 7 sites. Diet is pretty good/clean, working 40/40/20 levels, I'm not a strong eater (yet) but am trending correctly but am still deficient, just need to add more of the same calories to meals. Have been eating clean for 20ish months pretty consistently. BMR 2100, TDEE 3200. Have put on 21# of lean muscle since April, dropping BF down from 30ish%. Mostly powerlifting these days working 5x5 routine with 30min sessions in cardio/elliptical at the end a few times a week. Current 5x5 levels -> squat 235, bench 185, press 115 (bad shoulder = slow but steady progress), row 130, deadlift 285. I'll be adding in more targeted work as well (upper inner chest, forearms, calves, etc). In the gym 4-6 days per week, moving towards 6 as cycle starts. Gym is close by and convenient/open 24hrs, non-foofy place, lots of big weights

Prep
training experience: life long athlete, consistent and in place
diet: good, continuing to refine with focus on getting calories up to bulking levels
gear: sourced, but not purchased yet
knowledge building: ongoing
budget: in place, no issues
blood work: done, results pending this week. middle cycle blood work appt on calendar
needle phobia: none, self injecting weekly for 10mo

Cycle Expectations
My expectations are low, I'm mostly outcome independent knowing that whatever I gain with gear is going to be better than results I would get without. ie I don't really care, run a solid and consistent cycle and I'll be ok knowing that I'll work my ass off in the gym and focus in the kitchen and whatever happens is great. Overall, I desire to continue to add some lean bulk while continue to cut via diet. Stay uninjured and enjoy the time and gains in the gym over the winter and seeing the results as spring hits. I'm trying to go low and slow this round with an eye towards a focused bulking cycle in late summer.

Cycle
Modified steriod.com novice II 2-4 cycle (steroid dot com / Novice-Steroid-Cycles-II dot php). I've added a short burst of Dianabol at the beginning to kick start some bulk that I'd hope to hang on to.

Week---Test-Cypi---Dianabol--Equipoise---Winstrol----Test-Prop
1--------600mg-----25mg/ed---300mg
2--------600mg-----25mg/ed---300mg
3--------600mg-----25mg/ed---300mg
4--------600mg-----25mg/ed---300mg
5--------600mg----------------300mg
6--------600mg----------------300mg
7------- 600mg----------------300mg-----50mg/eod
8--------600mg----------------300mg-----50mg/eod
9------------------------------300mg-----50mg/eod--100mg/eod
10-----------------------------300mg-----50mg/eod--100mg/eod
11----------------------------------------50mg/eod--100mg/eod
12----------------------------------------50mg/eod--100mg/eod

Missing is the ongoing Anastrozole .25/ED (see calendar below)

-- PCT
Week---hCG-------------------Nolvadex
1-----350IU/ed
2-----350IU/ed for 3 days------40mg/ed
3------------------------------40mg/ed
4------------------------------20mg/ed
5------------------------------20mg/ed

pdf of calendar attached

Other
Some part of me wants to run hCG within the cycle, but that seems like a lot of sticks and I'm not sure what levels I might run. I could use the visual benefits on dropping the remaining midsection fat though.

Feedback, suggestions, critiques welcomed

cycle.pdf

[clarky.]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

Breif you said holy fvck lol.

Scrap that cycle mike thats no use have a read at this link then you will see how that is no use.

[kelkel]

Mike if you had a 660 TT and your FT was good you should have rode that out. That's excellent at your age! Really excellent. Read the link Clarky posted for you. It contains all the info you need.

[Cuz]

So you are on TRT now and are planning a blast? I agree with KK, 660 is not bad especially at your age, mine was 416 and im 25+ years younger than you

[miked187]

Thanks for all the feedback.

I'd read the "first cycle" sticky before. But I reread it all again after Clarky's nudge, and I think my takeaway that I was being pushed towards was doing one cycle and add one component at a time. Then if all goes well do another cycle with one new component. Makes sense. If I have 2-3 new items in the cycle and am having trouble with it then no way to identify what the problem is which will compromise my cycle. I think I may have discounted the articles approach given that I was already doing Test-C and I know how my body reacts to it. So it "didn't apply to me" in my head I think. Appreciate being pointed back to it.

Blood work came back today and I've been slacking on AI's, my E2 is waaay high at 97 (range is 3-70 pg/mL) - lol according to the data on the results sheet I have the estrogen level of an 11yr old girl. I got back on the Anastrozole today. I'd ran out prior to leaving the country in late Oct, and didn't get home till late Nov and I got sloppy about getting it refilled, so I finally got the refill done yesterday. That'll learn me. Hematocrit is high too so off to the blood bank tomorrow to give. So I need to get all this back in harmony before I start anything with any kind of cycle. So for now I'm on hold, but continuing to read and learn, and when things look right I'll reconsider starting at that point.

[ScotchGuard02]

Haven't done an intro yet, so I'll do a brief one here to set the table.

55yrs young, been on weekly 1cc Test-C injections since Feb '13. Natural total T tested at 660 prior to starting in Feb, convinced my doc that I wanted more Total T pending testing, the target was ~1000. 1.5cc's weekly till blood tests. First was trough at 750, second was peak at 1290. Dropped to 1cc and have sat there for a few months now. No issues with gyno or backne, some testicle shrinkage but I still have good size. On and off Clomid and Anastrozole over the time. I did blood work on Monday, no results yet.

6'4" 233#, BF 18.9% last week tested with plastic calipers, 3 reads each over 7 sites. Diet is pretty good/clean, working 40/40/20 levels, I'm not a strong eater (yet) but am trending correctly but am still deficient, just need to add more of the same calories to meals. Have been eating clean for 20ish months pretty consistently. BMR 2100, TDEE 3200. Have put on 21# of lean muscle since April, dropping BF down from 30ish%. Mostly powerlifting these days working 5x5 routine with 30min sessions in cardio/elliptical at the end a few times a week. Current 5x5 levels -> squat 235, bench 185, press 115 (bad shoulder = slow but steady progress), row 130, deadlift 285. I'll be adding in more targeted work as well (upper inner chest, forearms, calves, etc). In the gym 4-6 days per week, moving towards 6 as cycle starts. Gym is close by and convenient/open 24hrs, non-foofy place, lots of big weights

Prep
training experience: life long athlete, consistent and in place
diet: good, continuing to refine with focus on getting calories up to bulking levels
gear: sourced, but not purchased yet
knowledge building: ongoing
budget: in place, no issues
blood work: done, results pending this week. middle cycle blood work appt on calendar
needle phobia: none, self injecting weekly for 10mo

Cycle Expectations
My expectations are low, I'm mostly outcome independent knowing that whatever I gain with gear is going to be better than results I would get without. ie I don't really care, run a solid and consistent cycle and I'll be ok knowing that I'll work my ass off in the gym and focus in the kitchen and whatever happens is great. Overall, I desire to continue to add some lean bulk while continue to cut via diet. Stay uninjured and enjoy the time and gains in the gym over the winter and seeing the results as spring hits. I'm trying to go low and slow this round with an eye towards a focused bulking cycle in late summer.

Cycle
Modified steriod.com novice II 2-4 cycle (steroid dot com / Novice-Steroid-Cycles-II dot php). I've added a short burst of Dianabol at the beginning to kick start some bulk that I'd hope to hang on to.

Week---Test-Cypi---Dianabol--Equipoise---Winstrol----Test-Prop
1--------600mg-----25mg/ed---300mg
2--------600mg-----25mg/ed---300mg
3--------600mg-----25mg/ed---300mg
4--------600mg-----25mg/ed---300mg
5--------600mg----------------300mg
6--------600mg----------------300mg
7------- 600mg----------------300mg-----50mg/eod
8--------600mg----------------300mg-----50mg/eod
9------------------------------300mg-----50mg/eod--100mg/eod
10-----------------------------300mg-----50mg/eod--100mg/eod
11----------------------------------------50mg/eod--100mg/eod
12----------------------------------------50mg/eod--100mg/eod

I read your Cycle Expectations. If what you're looking for is lean bulk I would skip the Dbol (retains TONS of water), Equipose (retains water, not really good $/gains), Winstrol (diet and cardio over 14 weeks will get you lean), Test Prop (why switch esters? If your body's used to the Test Cyp and it's already saturated, just run 600mg Test Cyp for 14 weeks. Keep it simple.

Missing is the ongoing Anastrozole .25/ED (see calendar below)

-- PCT
Week---hCG-------------------Nolvadex
1-----350IU/ed
2-----350IU/ed for 3 days------40mg/ed
3------------------------------40mg/ed
4------------------------------20mg/ed
5------------------------------20mg/ed

pdf of calendar attached

Other
Some part of me wants to run hCG within the cycle, but that seems like a lot of sticks and I'm not sure what levels I might run. I could use the visual benefits on dropping the remaining midsection fat though.

Feedback, suggestions, critiques welcomed

cycle.pdf

Plan in your diet and cardio and you'll gain lean bulk. IMO, it's better to error on less AAS to get your gains. I'm 53 and I still look like my Avatar. I'm doing TRT 200mg/wk and I blast with 500mg/wk Test Cyp once per year or three times per two years. The thing that REALLY makes the difference in my regiment is HGH. That stuff is simply amazing for a guy my age. Have fun.