Anavar Jump Start Prop Cycle Results

[tice1212]

Starting Stats: 179lbs, 27yr, 9%bf, calories 3000+, Diet Clean, High Protein, Medium Carbs, High Fats, Train 5-6 wk, Cycle history before this 0, 1 Prohormone Cycle (worse thing I ever did).

I know most people frown upon var only cycles but the results are amazing. Double guessing myself to still run the Prop with Var.
So I was going to run my cycle like this:
wk 1-10 60mg Var
wk 3-10 400mg Test Prop
Also running AI, Hcg and the PCT Brothers (Nolvadex & Clomid)

But the results are turning out much better then I was expecting:
Started Jan 30 60mg var
Feb 5- 183.5lbs 9%bf
Feb 12- 186lbs 9%bf
Feb 18- 188.4lbs 8%bf
Good & Bad Effects: Strong as hell, Vascular, Feel really cocky, Shoulders and Arms getting much bigger, Shredding up.... Farts smell horrible, Gas all the time, Stomach has a little bloat to it

Now I know that the var is going to mess with my test if I run var only cycle longer then 8 weeks(or even less). Also I understand that these gain are going to hit a plateau(Should I start the PCT when I feel like this is happen?). I read on this forum "that your body can only grow some much on each cycle": so if I gain 15lbs on Var only can I gain 30lbs on the var/prop cycle? I feel like just doing a var only cycle at this point maybe a little more beneficial. But I don't know(thats why I am asking you guys). Should I still run the Prop or leave it for my 2nd cycle? at 400mg or 500mg? Thanks guys

[king6 II]

You will not gain 30 lbs from a prop/var cycle. I don't know what you gained with var only, but I would be surprised if is was more than 10 lbs, var gains are dry but quality. Test and var is a good cycle for bulking or cutting. Just to clarify, are you still currently running a var only cycle?

[tice1212]

Yes king I'm still running the 60mg var. I've been on for 20 days now and I jumped from 179.6 to 188.4. Plus I dropped from 9% to 8%. I was going to start the prop today but I don't know if I should wait just because the amazing result so far. And do the 500mg of prop on my 2nd cycle. Have u guys hear of any gains like his before on var?

[samuelsteven]

That sounds impossible for a Var only cycle..I would think Var alone would actually cause you to lose a small bit of weight, not gain 10lbs in under 3 weeks, even if a few of those lbs were muscle. Var does build muscle, but not 10lbs that quick. I mean unless you are having some weird side from the Var only and its causing you to bloat, cause it shouldn't cause much water.

[hawk14dl]

That sounds impossible for a Var only cycle..I would think Var alone would actually cause you to lose a small bit of weight, not gain 10lbs in under 3 weeks, even if a few of those lbs were muscle. Var does build muscle, but not 10lbs that quick. I mean unless you are having some weird side from the Var only and its causing you to bloat, cause it shouldn't cause much water.

Possibly dbol labeled as var

[reporich]

Possibly dbol labeled as var

That was my guess also.

[tice1212]

Here is the var boys. I hope its var lol

[tarmyg]

There is no way that will happen with var, EVER. Var is not used to jumpstart anything and takes just about as long as regular test show show its effect.

~T

[michael30]

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[clarkey02]

In the original post you said you only trained 5-6 wks. Is that correct or did you mean years? You shouldnt use aas if youve only trained for 5-6wks.

He means he's in the gym 5 or 6 times a week. Farting all over everything apparently :P

[tice1212]

He means he's in the gym 5 or 6 times a week. Farting all over everything apparently :P

Yeah bro the farting is uncontrollable! it started when I started the var

In the original post you said you only trained 5-6 wks. Is that correct or did you mean years? You shouldnt use aas if youve only trained for 5-6wks.

sorry bro I was trying to say that I train 5-6 times a week. I have been training seriously since 2006.

[ghettoboyd]

I suspect the reason he is gaining so much is because he had no muscular base to build from so when you start training and doing aas from nothing then you can only go up...the only people who gain 30lbs in a cycle are the ones that have no business using aas to begin with imho...

[tice1212]

hey guys just a quick update on the anavar cycle. so I disided not to do the test prop because the gains from the anavar was so amazing! Recorded weight and BF%
Jan 30 179.5Started 60mg var
Feb 5- 183.5lbs 9%bf
Feb 12- 186lbs 9%bf
Feb 18- 188.4lbs 8%bf
Feb 22- 192.1lbs 8%bf

Day 24: 179.5-192.1 (12.6lbs gained)

Good & Bad Effects: Good/ Strength is up about 20%-25% on most lifts, Horny as hell, Gaining clean dry gains (mostly in arms and chest), dropped about 1% bf love handles are shrinking, Still feel really cocky......Bad/ Farting is still horrible

Some people said that it could be dbol. how can I tell if it is real anavar or if it is dbol (I posted pics before)? My buddy told me to open a pill and lick it a little to see if it is bitter, he said if its bitter it is really var. so I did it and it was kind of sweet. I don't know if this is true. what do u guys think?

[DrewZ]

Some people said that it could be dbol. how can I tell if it is real anavar or if it is dbol (I posted pics before)? My buddy told me to open a pill and lick it a little to see if it is bitter, he said if its bitter it is really var. so I did it and it was kind of sweet. I don't know if this is true. what do u guys think?

You could Google ' steroid test kit '
There is a company in Canada that sells anavar/winny test ampules, this would tell you if its either of those two.

[tice1212]

You could Google ' steroid test kit '
There is a company in Canada that sells anavar/winny test ampules, this would tell you if its either of those two.

I got the test kit in the door today. Tested the var and it is real var. thanks for the reply bro. (helped put my mind at ease)

[tice1212]

hey guys just a quick update on the anavar cycle with a couple of questions. Recorded weight and BF%
Jan 30 179.5Started 60mg var
Feb 5- 183.5lbs 9%bf
Feb 12- 186lbs 9%bf
Feb 18- 188.4lbs 8%bf
Feb 22- 192.1lbs 8%bf
Mar 6 - 194.2lbs 8%bf

Day 36: 179.5-194.2 (14.7lbs gained)

Good & Bad Effects: Good/ Strength is up about 20%-25% on most lifts, Horny as hell, Gaining clean dry gains (mostly in arms and chest), dropped about 1% bf love handles are shrinking, Still feel really cocky......Bad/ Farting is still horrible

So i am thinking of starting my PCT the end week 7. (I don't feel shut down at all, honestly i feel more horny and stay harder longer on var) i just dont want to drop my test down to far, that's why i am think about cut my cycle off at 7 weeks. But i have a couple of questions:
1. What do you guys think is the proper PCT for this cycle. (i read a full sticky of a guy named BJJ that did a var only cycle and his PCT was Clomid 50,50 Nolvadex 20,20,20)(do you guys think that's enough?) or should i run Clomid 75,50,50,50 & Nolvadex 40,20,20,20
2. I have a full test Prop cycle i was going to run but the anavar showed such great gains so i decided not to run it. How long after i do my anavar cycle PCT can i start my Prop cycle?

[tarmyg]

I think you need to know WTF you are putting into your body and not licking it and guessing. It is your health you are dealing with after all. There is just NO WAY you can gain that amount if weight with Anavar alone in the timeframe specified, EVER. Clearly you are marching ahead with this brilliant plan so lets have your liver values (if you have a liver left) in a few weeks. This should be sticked on how to not approach ones health!

~T

[tice1212]

I think you need to know WTF you are putting into your body and not licking it and guessing. It is your health you are dealing with after all. There is just NO WAY you can gain that amount if weight with Anavar alone in the timeframe specified, EVER. Clearly you are marching ahead with this brilliant plan so lets have your liver values (if you have a liver left) in a few weeks. This should be sticked on how to not approach ones health!

~T

Hey tarmyg i have a couple of questions:

1. I am 100% with you on getting my live values checked, but I don't have any insurance(I seen on this forum where I can pay a website and go to the nearest lab and get my blood test done then check my results online ,I think the blood work cost around $95) Can anyone point me in the right direction to that link?
2. If it was Dbol, S-drol, H-drol or some kind of PH after 24 days of not running an AI do you think I would have some kind of side effect (acne, gyno, bloat, ect?)
3. I was doing some research to see if my gains are unheard of but i came up with a bunch of links of people gaining a bunch of weight off of var. (I have the links but I cant post them because I don't have 25 post under my name) its my first cycle so do u think that could be the reason for me gaining so much?
5. Should i just get off and start PCT?

Im just here to learn. Thank you for ur concern bro it means a lot.

[tarmyg]

I honestly do not feel qualified to give advice on exactly what approach to take. Maybe a vet can advise but please do take their advice.

~T

[gearbox]

Thats where ronnie rowland invented the sling shit theory. The gains quickly decrease after 8 weeks so you do a deload. But yes after 8 weeks especially prop the gains slow down.
what to run is your decision. You can try var onky and see how much it will surpress your natty system. Some due great on var only cycle. I wouldn't recommend cause along with test is such a better overall cycle and you get your moneyz worth imo.

what exactly are your goals?

[sixfootseven]

dude. You wait until you are almost down w cycle to ask questions about pct?

did you use hcg on cycle? Why would you not run the prop? it would have given better gains and the var would've shut down you natty test production. I have a prop var cycle planned for next month. I don't expect I will put on much weight though.

how many cals over maintenance have you been eating?

[tice1212]

dude. You wait until you are almost down w cycle to ask questions about pct?

did you use hcg on cycle? Why would you not run the prop? it would have given better gains and the var would've shut down you natty test production. I have a prop var cycle planned for next month. I don't expect I will put on much weight though.

how many cals over maintenance have you been eating?

1. I was asking the question about PCT because i read a guys full anavar only cycle and his PCT looked pretty weak at Clomid 50,50 & Nolvadex 20,20,20 but seemed to do the job for him. i was going to run the Beginners test PCT Clomid 75,50,50,50 & Nolvadex 40,20,20,20 (But after seen BJJ PCT i was thinking its kinda much? But i dont know what one to run)(FYI i have plenty PCT's)
2. I was told not to run HCG on anavar only cycle.
3. I didn't run the Prop because the gains i got just from the avanar in 3 weeks was almost 10lbs.
4. My TDEE is 2998 calories. i eat 3500-3600 calories.

[sixfootseven]

yeah, didn't mean to jump on your shit man

Just did a lot of research recently that told me I better run test w var so thats what I'm gonna do.

I wonder what would be bad about using hcg w var only?

[DrewZ]

Tice,
You can get bloods done through Private MD Labs online depending on where you are located.
Save yourself some $$$ and use google and find yourself a coupon code.

[tice1212]

Tice,
You can get bloods done through Private MD Labs online depending on where you are located.
Save yourself some $$$ and use google and find yourself a coupon code.

Man that sucks! I live in one of the states that wont let me get blood work. thanks bro

[tice1212]

Can anyone help me with these questions:
So i going to starting my PCT the end week 7. (I don't feel shut down at all, honestly i feel more horny and stay harder longer on var) i just dont want to drop my test down to far, that's why i am think about cut my cycle off at 7 weeks.

1. What do you guys think is the proper PCT for this cycle. (i read a full sticky of a guy named BJJ that did a var only cycle and his PCT was Clomid 50,50 Nolvadex 20,20,20)(do you guys think that's enough?) or should i run Clomid 75,50,50,50 & Nolvadex 40,20,20,20
2. I have a full test Prop cycle i was going to run but the anavar showed such great gains so i decided not to run it. How long after i do my anavar cycle PCT can i start my Prop cycle
Thanks guys

[tice1212]

Final Update:

Jan 30 179.5Started 60mg var
Feb 5- 183.5lbs 9%bf
Feb 12- 186lbs 9%bf
Feb 18- 188.4lbs 8%bf
Feb 22- 192.1lbs 8%bf
Mar 6 - 194.2lbs 8%bf
Mar 11- 195.3lbs 8%bf Started PCT

41 days- 15.8lbs gained

Ok so I stop running the var at day 41 (a little less then 6 weeks) the reason why I stop the var and start the pct was because March 8,9,10,11 I started to notice I was not waking up with a boner anymore. So I took that as a sign that my test was starting to drop. The pct I am doing is Clomid 40,40 & Nolvadex 20,20,20. So far so good. Started waking up with a boner again lol.
Thanks to everyone that helped me through this cycle.

[mark woods]

your were asking about when you could do your next cycle?rule of thumb usually is time on+pct=time off good luck!