Test Prop Cycle Questions

[tice1212]

Hey guys, After reading Austinite Article: "My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle" I decieded to run a Test Prop Cycle but I have several questions:

1: Austinite Article was running a Test E Cycle like this: -
- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts

"If you chose to go with a short ester such as Testosterone Propionate , you'll need to inject at a minimum of every other day. I good starting dose is 100 to 150 every other day, or 50 to 75 daily. Short ester cycle should last 8 weeks. hCG and AI dose remains the same as outlined above. PCT however, starts 3 days after your last injection of testosterone."

So would my cycle look like this???
-Week 1 to 8 Test Prop @ 125mg EOD (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts
OR
-Week 1 to 8 Test Prop @ 125mg EOD (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 8: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 8: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts


2. hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total) Seems Weird how would that sheclue look? "Monday & Thursday ??)

3. When do you start the HCG and Ai. For Example: Start Mon: Inject test, Wed: Inject Test, take AI, Thus: HCG
Fri: Test,Ai OR do ur start them all on the same day like: Start Mon: Test, AI, HCG, Wed: Test, Ai, Thus: HCG, Fri:Test, AI

4.Also HCG has to go in the fridge right?

Thanks guys

[slfmade]

Hey guys, After reading Austinite Article: "My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle" I decieded to run a Test Prop Cycle but I have several questions:

1: Austinite Article was running a Test E Cycle like this: -
- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts

"If you chose to go with a short ester such as Testosterone Propionate , you'll need to inject at a minimum of every other day. I good starting dose is 100 to 150 every other day, or 50 to 75 daily. Short ester cycle should last 8 weeks. hCG and AI dose remains the same as outlined above. PCT however, starts 3 days after your last injection of testosterone."

So would my cycle look like this???
-Week 1 to 8 Test Prop @ 125mg EOD (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts
OR
-Week 1 to 8 Test Prop @ 125mg EOD (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 8: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 8: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts


2. hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total) Seems Weird how would that sheclue look? "Monday & Thursday ??)

3. When do you start the HCG and Ai. For Example: Start Mon: Inject test, Wed: Inject Test, take AI, Thus: HCG
Fri: Test,Ai OR do ur start them all on the same day like: Start Mon: Test, AI, HCG, Wed: Test, Ai, Thus: HCG, Fri:Test, AI

4.Also HCG has to go in the fridge right?

Thanks guys

1. Use the one I put in bold.

2. Monday and Thursday would be fine on the HCG.

3. I think you're complicating it to much. I usually either start everything Day 1 or day 3. It's really won't make much difference.

4. YES

[slfmade]

What's your PCT look like?

[tice1212]

What's your PCT look like?

I will be running the same PCT that Austinite layed out, so it would be: Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20
3 days after my last injection right?

And thanks you!

[slfmade]

Yep....that looks good. Nice to see somebody do some research, ask appropriate questions based on their research, and follow the advice given. Good Job.

[bobdolan]

Hello,

I am new to this also. I have read Austinite's thread as mentioned above and wanted to use a Test Prop cycle for 8 weeks. What are your opinions on adding Stanozolol at 40 mgs daily weeks 3-8?

[tice1212]

Hello,

I am new to this also. I have read Austinite's thread as mentioned above and wanted to use a Test Prop cycle for 8 weeks. What are your opinions on adding Stanozolol at 40 mgs daily weeks 3-8?

# 6. What Your First Cycle Should Consist of

Regardless of whether this is your first cycle or not, oral only cycles should be avoided. Even if you've read that the compound is not very suppressive and/or toxic. Oral only cycle will lead to lethargy and a very poor state of mind. You'll be miserable once the compounds kick in and your results will suffer. This is very common and you'll see many folks say that they feel like terrible and unmotivated on cycle.

Next thing, testosterone only for your first cycle. I'm sure you've heard this everywhere. Let me tell you why. As mentioned above, oral only cycles are a poor choice. That said, Testosterone should be your base for all future cycles. But should be the sole compound in your first cycle. This is because you need to find out how your body reacts to testosterone. Once you have a couple of testosterone only cycles under your belt, you can begin to introduce other compounds. That way you'll be able to identify exactly which compound is causing the side effects. Otherwise you'll be lost.

Think about eating 2 or 3 exotic foods in one sitting. If you get food poisoning, how will you know which one caused it? You'll never know. So don't rush into things, one step at a time is wise - Austinite

[bobdolan]

And as for your pill dilemma, have a tried a box cutter or any razor?

Pill cutters tend to be dull.

[slfmade]

Hello,

I am new to this also. I have read Austinite's thread as mentioned above and wanted to use a Test Prop cycle for 8 weeks. What are your opinions on adding Stanozolol at 40 mgs daily weeks 3-8?

NO!!!! Follow it exactly as Austinite wrote it. If you read the article you'd know why adding compounds to a first cycle is a bad idea.

[bobdolan]

Thanks slfmade. Sometimes I am impatient with these things and want to go all out. I will stick to the above protocol and put in the hard work.

[slfmade]

Thanks slfmade. Sometimes I am impatient with these things and want to go all out. I will stick to the above protocol and put in the hard work.

Good work. To take full advantage of your cycle I would post your diet over in the nutrition section and let those guys look at it. You'd be amazed how simple changes in diet can effect the outcome of your cycle. For future reference, please post your own thread with specific questions.

[bobdolan]

Thanks. I am 29 and ran a cycle when I was young before I did my research. I did sustenon for 4 weeks and don't remember having side effects. I thought adding Stan would help with some gains.

[tice1212]

Hey I have two more questions. I have Arimidex but it comes in 1mg (tiny) pill. Any suggestions on how to cut this thing up in to 4 piece so i can get .25mg out of it? I've tried a pill cutter and it turned out a mess. Oh and is it ok to take my AI the same time I inject? Thanks again bro!

[slfmade]

Hey I have two more questions. I have Arimidex but it comes in 1mg (tiny) pill. Any suggestions on how to cut this thing up in to 4 piece so i can get .25mg out of it? I've tried a pill cutter and it turned out a mess. Oh and is it ok to take my AI the same time I inject? Thanks again bro!

Sorry bud. I really can't help you on that. My last cycle I used 25mg aromasin tabs and used a pill cutter to split them in half. They were very tiny (probably about 1/2 the size of a pencil eraser) and I didn't have any huge problems with cutting them in half to make 12.5mg. Some of them obviously we're exactly 1/2 but I figured it would all work out to be the same and I never had any problems controlling estrogen. I can see how splitting them in 1/4's would be an issue. Maybe somebody else will have a better idea.

If all else fails....the site sponser AR-R sells a-dex and it's very good quality. Since it's a liquid you can measure it out to whatever dose you want. I just picked up some items from them recently and they have sale going on right now. They ship fast!

[tice1212]

Another question: I have been looking into clen for during my pct. I've read it could help aid the recovery not so much in bring back my test levels to normal but more in the sense of the dieting part on pct. I relies I'm going to be gain a good amount of weight (fat, water & muscle). I also read that clen is great to burn fat and keep muscle while on a calorie deficiency.

1. Is there any truth to this.
If so would it be ok to run clen during my pct?
2. If you guys say its ok to run clen on pct, how would u guys run it. (fyi first test cycle and first time clen user) should I start the first day I start pct? I was going to do 10days on 10 days off cycle ro should I do 7on 7off?
Pct layout: C 75/50/50/50, N 40/20/20/20

Side note: I have the ar-r clen, keto & l-taurine
Thanks again guys

[slfmade]

I wouldn't run clen during PCT. Clen obviously helps you diet and this is not what we want during PCT. It's all about keeping gains. In order to not lose those gains I always keep my calories at 500 above TDEE. This will keep any loss at a minimum. This does mean that you're likely to gain a bit of fat, but that's better than losing LBM. Clen would defeat what we're trying to do. That being said...after your PCT is over and everythings back to normal, I see nothing wrong with running clen then.

[Bonaparte]

I wouldn't run clen during PCT. Clen obviously helps you diet and this is not what we want during PCT. It's all about keeping gains. In order to not lose those gains I always keep my calories at 500 above TDEE. This will keep any loss at a minimum. This does mean that you're likely to gain a bit of fat, but that's better than losing LBM. Clen would defeat what we're trying to do. That being said...after your PCT is over and everythings back to normal, I see nothing wrong with running clen then.

But but but, Clen is a potent anabolic in horses!!

[slfmade]

But but but, Clen is a potent anabolic in horses!!

Well that's why it's suggested we take horse semen sublingually during pct.