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    Q&a hgh, test e cycle

    Age: 33
    Height: 5'7
    Weight: 190lbs
    BF %: 22.8
    Training Experience: 4 years.

    I just started an HGH & Test E cycle this past week and need some input. Running HGH at 4IU, four days on, two days off. 500mg of Test E three times a week. I plan on running HGH 4-6 months & Test E for 8 weeks. My overall goal is to build lean muscle and lose body fat. I could also use nutritional advice for this cycle.

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    How many cycles u have under your belt?

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    Any ai?
    Pct plans?
    With test e dont have to do 3 injection
    2 will be fine,1 less pin is better

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasBody View Post
    Any ai?
    Pct plans?
    With test e dont have to do 3 injection
    2 will be fine,1 less pin is better
    This would be my first cycle. So, still quite a newbie here. I don't know what ai is? I do need a PCT plan. What is recommended? I can agree with one less pin! Will do!

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    it would be better to drop your bf to around 15 - 16% before hand.

    get your diet sorted out and try to make sure you maxed out on what your body can give before using AAS or any cycles.

    also at 33 using gh is not recommended given the fact your body still produces enough quantities on its own.

    but then if you are intent on running the cycle and will not heed to any advice given as to not using, then run gh (assuming we are talking REAL PHARM GRADE gh) a couple of months before introducing AAS. id say 4 to 5 months prior with a good diet and you will see some BF dropping and some metamorphosis on the muscle level at which point introducing AAS would yield even better results...think hyperplasia and hypertrophy of the muscles.

    if its your first cycle, and you are not sure about GH, drop it alltogether bro. not worth it. stick to Test alone. Austinite has a great post about first cycles that ought to get u all prepped out and on the go. as VEgas Bdy pointed out you need to have your PCT ready, your AIs on hand to go along the cycle etc. dont make the mistake of burning this bridge as first cycle can be MAGNIFICENT and yield EXCELLENT results if well planned and carried out.

    again: first cycle, stick to Test alone. AI on cycle, PCT when done.

    DIET DIET DIET. have your macros well balanced.

    GH to be kept till > 40 years. not now. but if you must run, again watch your diet. run gh a couple of months prior AAS to get optimal results.

    good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Othello View Post
    it would be better to drop your bf to around 15 - 16% before hand.

    get your diet sorted out and try to make sure you maxed out on what your body can give before using AAS or any cycles.

    also at 33 using gh is not recommended given the fact your body still produces enough quantities on its own.

    but then if you are intent on running the cycle and will not heed to any advice given as to not using, then run gh (assuming we are talking REAL PHARM GRADE gh) a couple of months before introducing AAS. id say 4 to 5 months prior with a good diet and you will see some BF dropping and some metamorphosis on the muscle level at which point introducing AAS would yield even better results...think hyperplasia and hypertrophy of the muscles.

    if its your first cycle, and you are not sure about GH, drop it alltogether bro. not worth it. stick to Test alone. Austinite has a great post about first cycles that ought to get u all prepped out and on the go. as VEgas Bdy pointed out you need to have your PCT ready, your AIs on hand to go along the cycle etc. dont make the mistake of burning this bridge as first cycle can be MAGNIFICENT and yield EXCELLENT results if well planned and carried out.

    again: first cycle, stick to Test alone. AI on cycle, PCT when done.

    DIET DIET DIET. have your macros well balanced.

    GH to be kept till > 40 years. not now. but if you must run, again watch your diet. run gh a couple of months prior AAS to get optimal results.

    good luck.
    I cleaned up my diet and slimed down two weeks prior. I plan to eat clean this whole process.
    Yes, my GH is pharm grade. What is AAS?
    I've read austinite's post. Have to read it again. What is your recommendation on PCT for this cycle?
    Thank you for the reply and info. It's definitely appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckbfit916 View Post
    I cleaned up my diet and slimed down two weeks prior. I plan to eat clean this whole process.
    Yes, my GH is pharm grade. What is AAS?
    I've read austinite's post. Have to read it again. What is your recommendation on PCT for this cycle?
    Thank you for the reply and info. It's definitely appreciated!
    In case I missed it, how long are you going to run the HGH?
    HGH should really be run at least 6 months.
    What brand is your HGH? I know you said it's pharmacy grade but??
    AAS = Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    In case I missed it, how long are you going to run the HGH?
    HGH should really be run at least 6 months.
    What brand is your HGH? I know you said it's pharmacy grade but??
    AAS = Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids
    Yeah, I was told to do six months. But i was planning on four depending on results. I want to say British dragon? Not a 100% sure. But I was told it's very potent. Which I believe, cause on my fourth day I felt different.

    What's AI? Anabolic injection?

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    If you go into the pct section there are alot of examples of a pct and you really should familiarize yourself with the protocols and what can be expected. Here is an example of a pct you could follow:
    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
    AAS refers to androgenic anabolic steroids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown View Post
    If you go into the pct section there are alot of examples of a pct and you really should familiarize yourself with the protocols and what can be expected. Here is an example of a pct you could follow:
    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
    AAS refers to androgenic anabolic steroids.
    Cool, thanks! I'll definitely read into it!

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    No, AI is Aromatase inhibitors. It stops the conversion of testosterone to estrogen that may cause gyno.
    http://www.ar-r.com/ancillaries/liqu...ml-1mg-ml.html

    British dragon is the name of an UGL, under ground lab. Sorry to say what you have is not hgh. At best it's hcg at worst it could be any number of things they are using now days to simulate some of the known side effects of HGH.

    Real HGH is VERY hard to find, trust me, I have wasted several $K in the last few years. 99% of what is known to be good sources are fake. The only way I will order HGH again is via prescription.

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    So then how would I know if its HGH or HCG?

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    So you're using 1,500 mg of test per week?
    Or is that a typo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckbfit916 View Post
    Age: 33
    Height: 5'7
    Weight: 190lbs
    BF %: 22.8
    Training Experience: 4 years.

    I just started an HGH & Test E cycle this past week and need some input. Running HGH at 4IU, four days on, two days off. 500mg of Test E three times a week. I plan on running HGH 4-6 months & Test E for 8 weeks. My overall goal is to build lean muscle and lose body fat. I could also use nutritional advice for this cycle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    So you're using 1,500 mg of test per week?
    Or is that a typo?
    Good catch. I hope not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Good catch. I hope not...
    Changing to 1000mg per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckbfit916 View Post
    Changing to 1000mg per week.
    No, that's still WAY to much. 400 is plenty for a 1st cycle.

    If it's hcg you can use a pregnancy test and it will show up positive but most companies use other peptides now days since most people know the pregnancy test method.

    Pretty much if it's not a well known brand such as genotropin, omnitrope, norditropin or saizen and come in original vials then it's going to be fake.
    Last edited by lovbyts; 05-31-2014 at 10:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    No, that's still WAY to much. 400 is plenty for a 1st cycle.
    Yeah, I should have done research before hand instead of rushing into it. I know that I should let my body ease into it. Another lesson learned!

    So now I'm contemplating on dropping the "HGH" and just run test? Now I'm questioning weather the stuff that I have is legit or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckbfit916
    Changing to 1000mg per week.
    Absolutely unnecessary. See advice offered by Lovbyts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Absolutely unnecessary. See advice offered by Lovbyts.
    Thanks for confirming lol.

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    Wow crazy first cycle bro !

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    You said you just started. You have 2 choices. #1 is stop and get everything together you should have before starting again. #1 rule is to have EVERYTHING on hand before starting.

    Option #2 is to (not recommended) order your AI and HCG and hope it does not take long to get to you. AI is the easy part.
    LiquiDex 30mL 1mg/mL

    Start reading here, it should answer most of your questions on what you need.
    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

    Your PCT should be.
    Clomid @ 75/50/50/50
    Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20

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    How long do I wait? Just till I get everything ready? I'll make sure to read that post over and over lol. By the way, thanks for your time! It's appreciated!
    Last edited by chuckbfit916; 05-31-2014 at 11:30 PM.

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    How long ago did you start? That will depend on a lot. If you only started a week or so ago then just stop now and wait until you get everything on hand then you can start again without much of anything to worry about as long as you have your diet and training in check of course.

    You can also extend your cycle out to 12 weeks instead of 8.

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