dropping test completely 8 weeks out

[Athlete127]

Okay I need some evidence and opinions on this. I have a good friend and he competes. He is on a ton of AAS just like any normal bodybuilding competitor. His new coach had him drop his test completely out 8 weeks out from his show.

Can you please explain the dangers here.

[Back In Black]

Why don't you post in our competitive bodybuilding section for the right traffic.

[Athlete127]

Figured it could be answered here regardless.

[Back In Black]

Figured it could be answered here regardless.

It could be answered anywhere. But why not post it where the competitive amongst us post frequently? In fact, if you go to the correct section and read some of the very recent posts there'll be a couple of opinions in there.

[David LoPan]

From Austinite Educational Article database.
Cycles without Testosterone: Why you should avoid them at all costs
Introduction

These threads keep popping up. Oral only cycles, injectables without testosterone , etc... Like many others, I get pretty tired of explaining why testosterone should be the base of every cycle. So hopefully this article will put an end to the nonsense. Plus I can just link to this article instead of explaining it each time. The name calling will be my constantly failing attempt at humor. Don't take it personally, Dummy, cause I'm gonna have fun with this one...

Why People Choose Orals Only

#1 - Too Scared To Inject Myself:
This is the main reason why folks consider oral only cycles. They're too scared to inject. Scared of a tiny little needle that wouldn't even hurt a kitty cat. Here's a fun fact: If you're not ready to inject, you're not ready to cycle. So... Locate your Gonads, man up, and inject.

#2 - Not All Steroids Shut Me Down:
Lol. You're killing me with this. Seriously, ever consider a career in comedy? Because you're a funny fụcker! So get on stage and let's see how many people heckle you. Steroids lead to suppression, period. Don't think that mild steroids don't suppress your HPTA. The word 'mild' is generally referring to hepatotoxicity. And yes, your super expensive and precious Anavar is suppressive, too.

#3 - I'm Only Going To Run This One Cycle:
Yeah, me too. I'm going to run this one cycle as well. Until the next one. Don't kid yourself, kiddo. You will not run a single cycle and stop. Furthermore; that is the silliest reason to avoid testosterone as a base. Regardless of how strong willed you are, it's not relevant.

#4 - All Of My Friends Did it And Got Big:
Well, no shit, Sherlock. Of course you can get big. Does that mean they're healthy? Heck no. Listen, Dummy, please don't tell me about this guy and that guy. It does not matter what they tell you. It is NOT all true. Unless you live with the guy, eat with the guy, sleep with the guy and shit with the guy... you don't know the guy! Besides, if you're shitting with the guy, you've got issues.

#5 - I Don't Care About My HPTA:
Cool. I don't really care about your HPTA either. Breed not you shall! I can't tell you how many times I've had ding dongs complain to me about constant issues they're having. Same guys who didn't care about anything but putting on muscle or shedding fat. Stay tuned, ding dong, you shall see how crappy your results will be.

#6 - Bodybuilders From the 60's and 70's Did it:
You have got to forget about the 60's. Seriously, I don't even get this argument. We know a whole lot more today, than they could possibly fathom back then. Heck, Hepcidin, the hormone that is suppressed and causes high hematocrit levels wasn't even discovered until the year 2000! So please, forget about 40+ years ago. Hey... 1970.... population: YOU! Well, you and Rich Piana. LOL. I laugh at my own jokes.

Why You Should NEVER Cycle Without Testosterone

Well, let's establish something real quick. Are you a man? If you answered no, you should leave this thread now. If you said yes, then I ask you another question... Do you want to function like a man on cycle? If you said no, please click here. While the rest are watching the linked video, let's continue...

The biggest issue really, is that most people start taking steroids in order to get in shape. You guys have this completely backwards. You're supposed to get in shape first! Because if you can't get in shape naturally, steroids will do nothing for you! So buddy over here, is at 26% body fat and wants to run anavar or winny for 8 weeks and turn into Andy Dick, but with muscle. Not going to happen! Sorry, Charlie. Ain't nobody got time fer dat.

Now. Let's say that you're still stubborn. Testosterone compliments other steroids. Literally, it says.... "Hey Winny, you lookin' mighty fine today". But seriously, your results would be far better in the presence of testosterone than your little colorful pills alone. Why waste such valuable time for crappy results when you can amplify them with testosterone?

Furthermore, I hope you're single and hate porn. Because your little peepee is likely to be staring at the floor the entire time. All shriveled up like an old catcher's mitt. A tiny one. And probably after your cycle as well. So keep your 'head' up high, and use testosterone as your base. Be a man, function like a man, and keep that Libido strong, ya big dummy.

Lastly, if you're so pumped up to run your oral only cycle, let me just remind you that without testosterone you'll become lethargic and weak. We already know you're weak minded, since you're too scared to inject, but now you're physically weak. Even with your pretty-little-colorful-magic pills! So there goes all your half-assed efforts down the drain. You are seriously wasting time and money. Your trainings will suffer. Your energy levels will be depleted and you'll be very disappointed in your final looks (which is pretty much going to be about the same) and all the money you spent.

In Closing...

You don't even need a whole lot of testosterone. You just need enough to function like a man. I'm not telling you to go out and buy 10 vials of test. Just one, one vial is all you need. You can run as little as 150mg per week to function like a man. That one 10ml vial of test enanthate (250mg/ml) will last you over 16 weeks at that dose! Holy moly, Batman!

If you're scared of a 1 inch needle, get a half inch 27 gauge needle and inject subcutaneously. If you're running 150 mg per week, that's less than a quarter of a CC twice a week. Sheesh! How much easier do you want me to make it?? Don't make me call you a WAAAAAMBULANCE!

Have a powerful day,

~ Austinite

[Cuz]

Post in the competitive bodybuilding forum

[qscgugcsq]

The only reason I see is to removewater retention at maximum but 8 weeks is way too long...
Seems like he do not control E2 correctly therefor bloat easely...

If E2 is in check, I dont think he should ever drop test prior a competition...
But Im not a competitor so I dont know...

[Cuz]

If u were to drop test 8 weeks before...which you would still need alot of time prepping. ..you would lose gains....the whole idea would be to hold onto as much lbm as possible on a calorie deficit...so two weeks before showtime would be a better idea. I'm willing to bet Metalject can explain this.

[magic32]

^^^Agreed, it's obviously best to cycle through the competition, unless he's concerned about testing and on Prop.

Okay I need some evidence and opinions on this. I have a good friend and he competes. He is on a ton of AAS just like any normal bodybuilding competitor. His new coach had him drop his test completely out 8 weeks out from his show.

Can you please explain the dangers here.

Does your highlighted question mean dangers to health or to competition readiness? If the former...none with PCT it's just cycle conclusion, if the latter...2 months of no gear prior to contest is absurd due to Cuz' answer above.