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    These blood results on high test cycle sound right???

    BHey guys,

    Im a month into a cycle with a new local brand.

    Im using 1g TEST per week on a bulk cycle blend on enanthate, deconate, and undecylenate.

    My blood work say the following.

    Total test 63 nmol/l (range 10-28)

    Free Test 2600 pmol/l (range 170-670)

    Should 1gr of test per week read more like FREE TEST - 5000 pmol/l ???
    Last edited by athletic.guy; 09-30-2015 at 08:01 AM.

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    I'm still learning, but to me it looks like it's legit. Do you have bloods from before to compare? Anyways, from 1g a week I think that looks a bit underdosed. I'd wait for the experts to comment though

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    What are the ranges and what lab? Looks very under dosed

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    I've added the ranges to the OP. Although my levels are through the roof I thought that 1000mg of FREE TEST would be 10x the normal range not 5 times.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by athletic.guy
    Hey guys, Im a month into a cycle with a new local brand. Im using 1g TEST per week on a bulk cycle blend on enanthate, deconate, and undecylenate. My blood work say the following. Total test 63 nmol/l (range 10-28) or 1815 ng/dl Free Test 2600 pmol/l (range 170-670) or 7500 ng/dl Should 1gr of test per week read more like FREE TEST - 5000 pmol/l ???
    I have no idea how free test could be higher than total test considering that free test is total test minus test that is bound to albumin and SBGH.
    Recheck your test results please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    I have no idea how free test could be higher than total test considering that free test is total test minus test that is bound to albumin and SBGH.
    Recheck your test results please.
    Ones in pmol/l and the other is nmol/l. There 2 different measurements.

    All I'm asking does 1000mg+ of test because I'm one month in and half life's are really long. So it's safe to say it could be as high as 1500mg in my system at the point of blood work. Should that read the above ratings or is the gear underdosed?

    Anyone know the optimal FREE TEST level should be during a bulk vs a cut?

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    Looks like he got them swapped with each other.

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    Yes they are different measurements but free tes cannot be more than total tes. Free tes comes from total tes not backwards. No One can tell you the optimal or exact percentages or amounts anything will be on any cycle because everybody's different. As for an example my last blood work coming back 400 mg tes 400 mg deca wkly has me at 91.4 free and 4183 total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tectime
    Yes they are different measurements but free tes cannot be more than total tes. Free tes comes from total tes not backwards. No One can tell you the optimal or exact percentages or amounts anything will be on any cycle becau different. As for an example my last blood work coming back 400 mg tes 400 mg deca wkly has me at 91.4 free and 4183 total.
    nmol vs pmol

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    Quote Originally Posted by tectime View Post
    Yes they are different measurements but free tes cannot be more than total tes. Free tes comes from total tes not backwards. No One can tell you the optimal or exact percentages or amounts anything will be on any cycle because everybody's different. As for an example my last blood work coming back 400 mg tes 400 mg deca wkly has me at 91.4 free and 4183 total.
    Thank you. What were the total and free measured by ? Nmol/l and Pmol/l? The USA usually uses Ng/Dl doesn't it?

    If your free test is 4183 pmol/l of 400 mg test ew, mine in theory if wasn't underdosed should be up around 10,000..... (I was aiming for 5000 pmol/l)

    I think it's safe to say that my "1000mg test blend" dosage is more likey truely 250-300mg....

    Anyone else have bloods results from 500mg+ testosterone cycles?
    Last edited by athletic.guy; 09-30-2015 at 10:51 AM.

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    Here is an interesting guide. Although it's in NG/DL. But it's not hard to calculate. What do u guys think?



    250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl
    500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl
    750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's

    According to an official clinical application :

    25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl
    50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl
    125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl
    300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl
    600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370 ng/dl

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    Quote Originally Posted by athletic.guy
    Here is an interesting guide. Although it's in NG/DL. But it's not hard to calculate. What do u guys think? 250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl 500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl 750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's According to an official clinical application : 25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl 50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl 125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl 300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl 600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370 ng/dl

    Although there is a lot that can cause things to vary, especially bodyweight...
    A general guide is around 700-800ng/dl per 100mg test C or E per week.

    Someone taking 500mg per week should be at least 3000ng/dl.
    Someone taking a gram a week should be well over 6000ng/dl.

    The OP is on a gram a week and is only at 1815ng/dl. I would say his gear is super underdosed.
    I would be wary of buying any blend that claims to have 1000mg per ml.

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    Mine is ng/dl.

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    And that clinical application is low in my opinion because when I'm on 300 mg my numbers are way above what those are showing. 300 is my sweety and I'm 2500+ at that.

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    I'm using a gram a week dosed at 400mg per ml. Obviously it's more like 100mg per ml. Won't buy that shit brand again. It's all over Sydney Australia.

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    Oops I looked back that was with a little deca at 2500+ . My last tes only at 300 shows 1900+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tectime View Post
    Oops I looked back that was with a little deca at 2500+ . My last tes only at 300 shows 1900+.

    That's could make my situation even worse because I'm also using hcg Pregnyl 250iu 2pw and 750mg of EQ. So my test could be totally bunk and the elevated levels could be due to the 750mg EQ ew which I know is GTG cause it's left ova from my last cycle.

    You just can trust this brand. I wish I could say the name. Not even the first and last letters?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by athletic.guy View Post
    That's could make my situation even worse because I'm also using hcg Pregnyl 250iu 2pw and 750mg of EQ. So my test could be totally bunk and the elevated levels could be due to the 750mg EQ ew which I know is GTG cause it's left ova from my last cycle.

    You just can trust this brand. I wish I could say the name. Not even the first and last letters?????
    We've probably all dealt with a bit of garbage product. My prop for instance I think contains no test. I was running it with tren, and had to add in test c from pharmacy to feel right. And that was at supposedly 500mg of prop a week, never felt anything from it but pain. It really sucks when it can throw off a cycle. Other times I have included at least trt test from pharm to make sure bases were covered, but shouldn't have to do that. Test is best imo, so missing out on it really screws things up, let alone your body kind of expects it to be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEOINAGE View Post
    We've probably all dealt with a bit of garbage product. My prop for instance I think contains no test. I was running it with tren, and had to add in test c from pharmacy to feel right. And that was at supposedly 500mg of prop a week, never felt anything from it but pain. It really sucks when it can throw off a cycle. Other times I have included at least trt test from pharm to make sure bases were covered, but shouldn't have to do that. Test is best imo, so missing out on it really screws things up, let alone your body kind of expects it to be there.
    So true. I made the transition over to this new brand a friend was raving about. What a mistake.

    Stick with what works, kind of want to show him what real test is like but then part of me is thinking fuk him, he has set me back a month.

    The dead give away was usually .5mg arimadex ed is required to keep my e2 levels right when using 1g test a week and now .5 ADEX crashed me for a week. That's when I knew it must be underdosed.

    I feel like shit atm, need a bottle of prop to get my brain back on track ASAP. Feeling so flat.
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