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    Greater Israel: A Dream Closer to Fulfillment

    by Abid Ullah Jan

    A terrible, terrible time is ahead. Nevertheless, we are so indulged in our personal affairs and so mesmerized by the "mainstream" media´s onslaught and biased presentation of the international issues that we fail to see beyond what it wants us to see.

    We fail to see that the US and Israel are well on their course to materialize the Zionist dream of Greater Israel and fulfill God´s promise to Abraham in the Bible: "To your descendants I give this land from the River of Egypt to the Great River, the river Euphrates."

    The US and Israel, self-deluded into the most-superior-states syndrome, are set to surpass all previous records of bloodletting in human history. They have set a stage. They have acquired all the required resources. They have turned the UN into more irrelevancy than its predecessor, the League of Nations. And they have made the rest of the world more helpless before their outlaw behavior than it was before Hitler in the late 1930s. Yet the world lives with a hope that things will change for better.

    Things are not going to change for better. No one can stop the upcoming bloodshed in the Middle East because no one is ready to act for better. The so-called world leaders know; the UN knows and people all over the world smell the unfolding bloody adventures in the Middle East, but the seeming helplessness on all sides is making the upcoming bloodshed inevitable.

    to see the rest of the article:
    http://www.tanzeem.org/resources/art...cle.asp?id=109
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    It will end up being WW3.......We are getting close to the Apocalypse.

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    propaganda

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    Quote Originally Posted by decadbal
    propaganda
    It's all propaganda bro, wether pro or anti israel, pro or anti USA, pro or anti muslim...

    In the end regardless of what we believe, everyone is entitled to their opinion...

    Red

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    i didnt know we were, thanks for the enlightenment

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    Quote Originally Posted by decadbal
    i didnt know we were, thanks for the enlightenment
    Any day bro... if there is anything else you want to know, the answer will be "yes, but only on a wednesday"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Ketchup
    Any day bro... if there is anything else you want to know, the answer will be "yes, but only on a wednesday"



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    Am I allowed to ruthlessly murder every cigarette smoker i see on the street? They fill me with uncontrollable rage and i so desperately yearn to give them the sweet release that beckons them with every puff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisAdams
    Am I allowed to ruthlessly murder every cigarette smoker i see on the street? They fill me with uncontrollable rage and i so desperately yearn to give them the sweet release that beckons them with every puff.
    **** i thought i was the only one that felt like doing that lol. i freaking hate smokers, its just disgusting! i cannot wait for the day that they ban smoking inside philly bars and clubs

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    by Abid Ullah Jan

    A terrible, terrible time is ahead. Nevertheless, we are so indulged in our personal affairs and so mesmerized by the "mainstream" media´s onslaught and biased presentation of the international issues that we fail to see beyond what it wants us to see.

    We fail to see that the US and Israel are well on their course to materialize the Zionist dream of Greater Israel and fulfill God´s promise to Abraham in the Bible: "To your descendants I give this land from the River of Egypt to the Great River, the river Euphrates."

    The US and Israel, self-deluded into the most-superior-states syndrome, are set to surpass all previous records of bloodletting in human history. They have set a stage. They have acquired all the required resources. They have turned the UN into more irrelevancy than its predecessor, the League of Nations. And they have made the rest of the world more helpless before their outlaw behavior than it was before Hitler in the late 1930s. Yet the world lives with a hope that things will change for better.

    Things are not going to change for better. No one can stop the upcoming bloodshed in the Middle East because no one is ready to act for better. The so-called world leaders know; the UN knows and people all over the world smell the unfolding bloody adventures in the Middle East, but the seeming helplessness on all sides is making the upcoming bloodshed inevitable.

    to see the rest of the article:
    http://www.tanzeem.org/resources/art...cle.asp?id=109


    I hope the FBI reads your crap posts and takes your ass to guantanamo bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon rock
    I hope the FBI reads your crap posts and takes your ass to guantanamo bay.
    hell yeah, bro. fu ck this talibani afghani middle eastern sh it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhuman
    hell yeah, bro. fu ck this talibani afghani middle eastern sh it.
    Now, read your signature,


    War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. -John Stuart Mill...

    Don't you think your being a tiny bit hypocritical?

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    Ah yes. Another one who lives in yesterday complaining today and not planning for tomorrow.

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    Everyone has opinions. Myself being of arabic descent always come across negativity. People just dont understand all the facts and honestly I dont blame them because the media does not tell all sides of a story.

    Political subjects are real sensitive and I rather not see any threads about stuff like this...just my opinion though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammar
    Everyone has opinions. Myself being of arabic descent always come across negativity. People just dont understand all the facts and honestly I dont blame them because the media does not tell all sides of a story.

    Political subjects are real sensitive and I rather not see any threads about stuff like this...just my opinion though.


    Yah, I'm no fan of US MidEast policy. I don't think either Bush or Kerry has a plan to fix things over there; they're too much indebted to special interests here in the US.
    Usually when ya criticise US MidEast policy, you're looked at like you're anti-Jewish . . . I personally don't think it's unreasonable to have Israel move back to the boundries given it by the UN in 1947 (there's been several resolutions in the UN for Israel to do this, with the only objectors being Israel and the US), and for Israel to withdraw all of its settlements built outside of its borders (again, several UN resolutions passed, the only objectors are the US and Israel), and for Israel to tear down the wall they're building up to 9 miles inside Palestinian territory (same UN resolution situation).

    Israel got around $9 Billion in foreign aid from the US last year, the arabs see this and conclude that the US supports Israeli policy, and so, they hate the US too.
    It ain't rocket science.
    But politics and big business being what it is today, with 6 multi-national corporations controlling 90% of the what you see in the US news, we don't get the complete story. Just the stuff that's profitable for the companies, and that ususally means not upsetting Washington politicians who regulate their markets . . .

    The crazy thing is that in about 50 (or 100 years at the very latest) Isreal's ethnic Palestinian population will exceed the Jewish population, and then they can start electing their own folks to run the government. When Palestinians run the Israeli government, you can bet the current conflict will disappear. The big problem then will be what the minority Jews will end up doing . . .

    And this means that the likelihood of an apocalyptic end-time war as described in the Bible is very unlikely to occurr in the next few hundred years (probably never).

    Anyway, current US MidEast policy is absolutely stupid, does not press for justice for the oppressed, and does nothing but piss off the folks who have the #1 commodity the US needs to support its economy. But then, what else could you expect from a bunch of **** politicians?
    --Tock

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    For starters M'guy. If only the people here realised the significance of your avatar here I believe you'd be banned without a second thought.
    As regards a greater Israel, with this weeks Madrid bombing, Bali, and the WTC I might call you out on Islam's aim's for a greater Islamic world through terror. The first time I served in Lebanon (1988) I told people this day would come, but I was called a Zionist etc..
    And American financial backing of Israel!, big deal go research what financial backing they give the Pals, and their Arab brothers. Plus unlike the financial backing America gives Israel, it (Israel) will never turn that money to fund terror attacks against the free world.
    You people make me sick to my stomach, I swear to good god you do, and if I was an American on this board, given its recent history under the flag of terror you use in your avatar I'd be spitting blood for your banning.

    Oh yeah, I've experienced what that flag means buddy.. Check it out in the back ground of this photo before you call me out on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER

    And American financial backing of Israel!, big deal go research what financial backing they give the Pals, and their Arab brothers. Plus unlike the financial backing America gives Israel, it (Israel) will never turn that money to fund terror attacks against the free world.

    Israel was caught spying on the US a few years ago, evidently they were stealing US nuclear secrets to swap with the Soviet Union for increased emigration quotas. Yes, it's not quite a terror attack, but it sure ain't in the best interests of Americans . . .

    --Tock

    Do a Yahoo search on Israel spy and you'll come up with lots of interesting stuff like this:

    From http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html

    Prior to 9/11, the FBI had discovered the presence of a massive spy ring inside the United States run by the government of Israel. This seems a harsh gratitude from a nation which obtains 10% of its annual budget from the American taxpayer, $3+ billion a year. Over the years, American taxpayers have been required to send Israel more than four times what the US spent to go to the moon.
    -- s n i p --
    Let us be clear here. There is nothing benign about Israel spying on the United States. When Jonathan Pollard stole our nuclear secrets (which your taxes paid to develop) and sent them to Israel, Israel did not hesitate to trade those secrets to the USSR in exchange for increased emigration quotas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    You people make me sick to my stomach, I swear to good god you do, and if I was an American on this board, given its recent history under the flag of terror you use in your avatar I'd be spitting blood for your banning.

    Oh yeah, I've experienced what that flag means buddy.. Check it out in the back ground of this photo before you call me out on it.
    Well said, Bouncer. I was in Beruit in 84 & 85. (old fart)

    Militia guy,

    I firmly believe that ALL people have a right to be free and live productive lives. But should a certain group of people keep carrying out terrorist attacks no MY country, then this is what THEIR country will look like. Beautiful, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    For starters M'guy. If only the people here realised the significance of your avatar here I believe you'd be banned without a second thought.
    As regards a greater Israel, with this weeks Madrid bombing, Bali, and the WTC I might call you out on Islam's aim's for a greater Islamic world through terror. The first time I served in Lebanon (1988) I told people this day would come, but I was called a Zionist etc..
    And American financial backing of Israel!, big deal go research what financial backing they give the Pals, and their Arab brothers. Plus unlike the financial backing America gives Israel, it (Israel) will never turn that money to fund terror attacks against the free world.
    You people make me sick to my stomach, I swear to good god you do, and if I was an American on this board, given its recent history under the flag of terror you use in your avatar I'd be spitting blood for your banning.

    Oh yeah, I've experienced what that flag means buddy.. Check it out in the back ground of this photo before you call me out on it.
    this is the flag of my party ...this party is legal in lebanon..and we have a lot of respect from ppl because we kicked the israeli invadors from our occupied lebanese land that israel took in 1982 go make a search about hezbollah and see

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    this is the flag of my party ...this party is legal in lebanon..and we have a lot of respect from ppl because we kicked the israeli invadors from our occupied lebanese land that israel took in 1982 go make a search about hezbollah and see

    What a crock of crap. Fact, Ehid Barak, in his pre-election campaign said he'd withdraw his troops from Lebanon inside of 2 yrs. In 2000 he withdraw them, only 6 months inside his premiership, why?, because he didn't need them (the IDF) on the ground in Lebanon anymore. He could turn Lebanon into a giant carpark with aerial bombardment alone, not to mention arty fire from the Golan, and 155mm and 175mm fire from the PVP's insode of Israel. As for running the IDF from Lebanon, HA, ok venture down to Naqoura and discover just how far you are from Israel your party are!.

    As for Hezbollah, how about the US general kidnapped in Beirut and found murdered in Kirbat-slim (sp'ing) [he was hung by the Hezbollah. YOUR party] And I remember after 9/11 YOUR party [again] paraded their jubilee in the streets to celebrate their joy at what happened at teh WTC.

    You know there's a few things which sicken me about Hezbollah. Your constant celebration of mass-murder against western targets, your hypocracy of America and yet I've never met an arab in Lebanon (hezbollah or otherwise) who've ever refused a US$ from me!. Your cowardly attacks on Israel with remote controlled Katusha rockets, why not stand and fight if your cause is so just?. Why take all the males over 12 from the Tibnine orphanage and put them into a Hezbollah run orphanage behind Al-Yatun? is it to turn them into future terrorists againt western targets?...
    I could go on at the risk of boring 99% of the people here, but unlike them I've vast experience of Lebanon, Hezbollah, Amal and the whole situ there in Lebanon and the middle east. Still wanna debate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    this is the flag of my party ...this party is legal in lebanon..and we have a lot of respect from ppl because we kicked the israeli invadors from our occupied lebanese land that israel took in 1982 go make a search about hezbollah and see

    Yah, and if I recall correctly, Israel invaded Lebanon not because it had done anything, but because Israel wanted to establish a "security zone" in your territory?
    It seemed to me that if they wanted to set up a security zone in their own territory, that would be one thing, but in your territory, that would be quite another . . .
    It's been a while, but I recall rooting for your side of the battle . . .
    --Tock

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    No one cares.

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    I care but like I said its a real sensitive subject. Last thing that is needed when talking about this is immaturity.

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    Plus, I believe Cycleon warned you before about your anti-American postings, or was it PT?. Same difference really given your avatar.

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    Im so tired of the Middle East's ****. Wheres a good tactical nuke when you need one?

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    I hold no special love for the Jews or Israel..but if they took over the entire Mid-East..I wouldnt care..be somewhat of an improvment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaSlamma
    I hold no special love for the Jews or Israel..but if they took over the entire Mid-East..I wouldnt care..be somewhat of an improvment.
    I apologize for the hijacking, but just curious what your patch and the russian is, Bamma?

    If Militiaguy's avatar is as bad as Bouncer says it is, I don't think I want to know what it means. I'll refrain from replying to his post because it will be to no end, and I rarely see Militiaguy engage in debate, anyways. He posts his "propaganda" and leaves.

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    Of course the US still owes Israel a good kick in the butt for the USS Liberty incident...

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    Everytime i read this thread i get more mad. Your avatar makes me want to hate you even more. What do you think your actions will acomplish? You do nothing but unite us in our hate for you. What did blowing up the world trade
    center get you? A kick in the ass, thats what! It's like poking a bee hive with a stick, seems like a good idea until the bee's come out and sting you good.
    Eventualy people like you will be destroyed. The americans could destroy your
    entire country with one small nuke. Look what happened to hiroshima and nagasaki when the japanese thought it would be a good idea to bomb pearl harbour. I bet they weren't too happy when they were running down the street in flames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon rock
    Everytime i read this thread i get more mad. Your avatar makes me want to hate you even more. What do you think your actions will acomplish? You do nothing but unite us in our hate for you. What did blowing up the world trade
    center get you? A kick in the ass, thats what! It's like poking a bee hive with a stick, seems like a good idea until the bee's come out and sting you good.
    Eventualy people like you will be destroyed. The americans could destroy your
    entire country with one small nuke. Look what happened to hiroshima and nagasaki when the japanese thought it would be a good idea to bomb pearl harbour. I bet they weren't too happy when they were running down the street in flames.
    why u r trying to stick the queeda maniac acts in out party udont know anything...do u know that we have great great difference btw our act and ousam bi landen act actualy we hate this guy and we think he will rot to hell try to understand about what u r talking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symian
    I apologize for the hijacking, but just curious what your patch and the russian is, Bamma?

    If Militiaguy's avatar is as bad as Bouncer says it is, I don't think I want to know what it means. I'll refrain from replying to his post because it will be to no end, and I rarely see Militiaguy engage in debate, anyways. He posts his "propaganda" and leaves.

    Sym

    Serbian...patch is from the SDG/SSJ..Arkan's Tigers..Protector of Christians. The script is cyrillic, but also serb..Blood is not water (Blood is thicker than water)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaSlamma
    Serbian...patch is from the SDG/SSJ..Arkan's Tigers..Protector of Christians. The script is cyrillic, but also serb..Blood is not water (Blood is thicker than water)
    And we all know what a nice guy arkan was...murdering civilians in thousands and leaving them in mass graves, you and militiaguy are just the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaSlamma
    I hold no special love for the Jews or Israel..but if they took over the entire Mid-East..I wouldnt care..be somewhat of an improvment.

    Hey Bama, We've got NO love for u either prick!

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    Aww come on..he wasnt that bad!

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    This is another subject that if let go on, i will probably get banned. I will say this. If you don't like America and our policies, do as Johnny Depp and get the **** out. I promise you wont be missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mart651
    If you don't like America and our policies, do as Johnny Depp and get the **** out. I promise you wont be missed.

    Um, seems to me that at patriotic American would stick around and try to fix things that were wrong.
    Like all those folks who stirred up lots of S--- in the south and getting shot for simple stuff like voting rights and equal schools for blacks.
    Ya, one thing about equal rights is, once you let some folks have 'em, pretty soon everyone is gonna want 'em . . .
    The folks who put on the Vietnam War now admit that it was a bad idea, a big f'in mistake that cost over 50,000 American lives, and a heckuva lot more Asian lives. Back in those days, they used to say, "America-love it or leave it," and it turns out that those people who uncritically supported the government were supporting a bunch of idiots. Of course, they didn't know this at the time, but it's the way things turned out to be.
    The lesson learned from the Vietnam War should be to "Always question authority." If more people had done so and discovered that that war was a big mistake, and if they had contacted their elected officials to voice their opinion, American troops would have spent fewer days there, and fewer Americans would have been killed.
    Folks rag on Bill Clinton for not having served in the military. Seems to me that he was smart enough to see what the war really was, and did the intelligent thing and protested it. Kerry did the same thing, once his time in the military was up . . . but that's neither here nor there . . .

    The point is that in this country if you don't like the way things are going, you have the right to speak up and voice your opinion. If you see that things are going horribly wrong, it's pretty much your patriotic duty to speak up.
    Kudos to the patriots who see America's shortcomings and work to fix them. Razz-berries to easily irritated pseudo-patriots who would abridge the right for American Citizens to seek improvements in government.

    --Tock

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    As usual, you have some good points but in this situation none of them apply.
    You can believe that it is better for us to back the Palestinians all you like. Myself, I will follow blindly behind the bible and hope Israel takes over the Middle East.





    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    Um, seems to me that at patriotic American would stick around and try to fix things that were wrong.
    Like all those folks who stirred up lots of S--- in the south and getting shot for simple stuff like voting rights and equal schools for blacks.
    Ya, one thing about equal rights is, once you let some folks have 'em, pretty soon everyone is gonna want 'em . . .
    The folks who put on the Vietnam War now admit that it was a bad idea, a big f'in mistake that cost over 50,000 American lives, and a heckuva lot more Asian lives. Back in those days, they used to say, "America-love it or leave it," and it turns out that those people who uncritically supported the government were supporting a bunch of idiots. Of course, they didn't know this at the time, but it's the way things turned out to be.
    The lesson learned from the Vietnam War should be to "Always question authority." If more people had done so and discovered that that war was a big mistake, and if they had contacted their elected officials to voice their opinion, American troops would have spent fewer days there, and fewer Americans would have been killed.
    Folks rag on Bill Clinton for not having served in the military. Seems to me that he was smart enough to see what the war really was, and did the intelligent thing and protested it. Kerry did the same thing, once his time in the military was up . . . but that's neither here nor there . . .

    The point is that in this country if you don't like the way things are going, you have the right to speak up and voice your opinion. If you see that things are going horribly wrong, it's pretty much your patriotic duty to speak up.
    Kudos to the patriots who see America's shortcomings and work to fix them. Razz-berries to easily irritated pseudo-patriots who would abridge the right for American Citizens to seek improvements in government.

    --Tock

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    Quote Originally Posted by mart651
    1) As usual, you have some good points but in this situation none of them apply.
    2) You can believe that it is better for us to back the Palestinians all you like.
    3) Myself, I will follow blindly behind the bible and hope Israel takes over the Middle East.

    1) I see. Hmmm . . .
    2) Um, I don't have much affection for the Palestinians; they're wedded to the Koran, which obliges them to all sorts of civil travesties, just as the fundamentalist Jews and Christians are wedded to the Torah and the Bible, which inclines them to all manner of irrational acts . . . The planet would be greatly improved if space aliens would come along and abduct each and every one of them, and feed them to giant spiders or the buxom Amazon cannibals in another galaxy . . .
    What I'm "backing" is Justice, plain and simple. The UN gave Israel land in 1947, they were supposed to peacefully co-exist with Palestinians already there, BUT they drove 'em out at the end of their guns, and now the fundamentalist Jews say that the entire region was given to them by God 3000 years ago, and they're building settletments outside Israeli borders with the backing of the Israeli military, which is getting $$$ from US taxpayers via foreign aid. So, that makes the US complicit in the injustice perpetrated upon the Palestinians.
    I can understand why the Palestinians are hopping mad . . . lots of 'em were illegally forced off the land their families had owned for generations, and nowadays, the Israeli military bulldozes down their small towns and builds villages for Jewish fundamentalists.

    This ain't rocket science. It's pretty obvious who is getting s*** on and who is doing the s***ing. IMHO, the smartest thing the US government could do is to be on the side of Justice, not on the side of either Israel or Palestine. But, there are too many special interest groups in the US who are on the side of Israel, Justice be ****ed. And this, mon petite, is the central issue that makes terrorists want to bomb the US. Fix this problem, and we can do away with all the metal detectors at airports, all the crap the Justice Department does that restricts individual liberty, and all the stupid foreign aid to those idiots in the middle east.


    3) "Follow blindly," eh? The big problem nowadays is that too many people "follow blindly" and don't think things through. Folks pay $$$ to go to church so someone can tell them what they beleive. Leaders of special interest groups love folks who follow and never ask questions . . . but it's folks like them who end up on the front lines of wars (like what we've got in Iraq) and who end up making them rich, rich, rich . . .
    The middle east is full of people who "follow blindly," like suicide bombers, and most of the Moslems, folks who don't think things through because they're supporting "their side" of the conflict. Because of this, there will never be a shortage of idiots willing to do stupid things at odds with their best interests . . .
    "Following blindly" is a dangerous thing to do, mon ami. I strongly recommend you choose another path, 'cause if you don't, someone will be waiting to take advantage of you.
    --Tock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    1) I see. Hmmm . . .
    2) Um, I don't have much affection for the Palestinians; they're wedded to the Koran, which obliges them to all sorts of civil travesties, just as the fundamentalist Jews and Christians are wedded to the Torah and the Bible, which inclines them to all manner of irrational acts . . . The planet would be greatly improved if space aliens would come along and abduct each and every one of them, and feed them to giant spiders or the buxom Amazon cannibals in another galaxy . . .
    What I'm "backing" is Justice, plain and simple. The UN gave Israel land in 1947, they were supposed to peacefully co-exist with Palestinians already there, BUT they drove 'em out at the end of their guns, and now the fundamentalist Jews say that the entire region was given to them by God 3000 years ago, and they're building settletments outside Israeli borders with the backing of the Israeli military, which is getting $$$ from US taxpayers via foreign aid. So, that makes the US complicit in the injustice perpetrated upon the Palestinians.
    I can understand why the Palestinians are hopping mad . . . lots of 'em were illegally forced off the land their families had owned for generations, and nowadays, the Israeli military bulldozes down their small towns and builds villages for Jewish fundamentalists.

    This ain't rocket science. It's pretty obvious who is getting s*** on and who is doing the s***ing. IMHO, the smartest thing the US government could do is to be on the side of Justice, not on the side of either Israel or Palestine. But, there are too many special interest groups in the US who are on the side of Israel, Justice be ****ed. And this, mon petite, is the central issue that makes terrorists want to bomb the US. Fix this problem, and we can do away with all the metal detectors at airports, all the crap the Justice Department does that restricts individual liberty, and all the stupid foreign aid to those idiots in the middle east.


    3) "Follow blindly," eh? The big problem nowadays is that too many people "follow blindly" and don't think things through. Folks pay $$$ to go to church so someone can tell them what they beleive. Leaders of special interest groups love folks who follow and never ask questions . . . but it's folks like them who end up on the front lines of wars (like what we've got in Iraq) and who end up making them rich, rich, rich . . .
    The middle east is full of people who "follow blindly," like suicide bombers, and most of the Moslems, folks who don't think things through because they're supporting "their side" of the conflict. Because of this, there will never be a shortage of idiots willing to do stupid things at odds with their best interests . . .
    "Following blindly" is a dangerous thing to do, mon ami. I strongly recommend you choose another path, 'cause if you don't, someone will be waiting to take advantage of you.
    --Tock
    Tock, i think u need to go back and read up on ur history. Or maybe u should watch the video on the link Bouncer has posted. And see who attacked who first.

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    Tock, read 'Spy Catcher' the US spied on the UK, and the UK on the US etc.. It happens. Bama, Arkan was a war criminal and got his dues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    .. It happens. Bama, Arkan was a war criminal and got his dues.
    The Brits thought that about George Washington...The Third Reich thought that about George Patton.. millions of people would say that about the IRA, which you have stated you support.

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