Total test 25 and LH 0.0 and TFH <0.3. HELP

[phenom1979]

Ok, I am an ex user. I only did a few 10 weeks cycles over five years ago. I decided last year to do a few pro-hormone type cycles. One with H-drol and the other with decabolan. I followed up with clomi from a research chemical company both times for my PCT. Over the last year, I started getting depression like symptoms, fatigue, and ED. I had many test run and now my total test levels came back at 25ng/ml, which is retarded low. And my LH levels actually came back at 0.0, yes that is none, and my TFH came back at <o.3, which is also retarded. They are going to put me on test replacement therapy. My question for someone with real world experience, is what would be a good combo of either serums, and or supplements to try and get my hormones to elevate. I don't know what my natural levels are so there is nothing for me to compare my low levels to. I just want to see if I can get them elevated without going on therapy, and if I can't then I'll have to go that route. This is a serious question, so if you don't now what you're talking about, please don't respond.

Thanks B

[ZonaDave]

Ok, I am an ex user. I only did a few 10 weeks cycles over five years ago. I decided last year to do a few pro-hormone type cycles. One with H-drol and the other with decabolan. I followed up with clomi from a research chemical company both times for my PCT. Over the last year, I started getting depression like symptoms, fatigue, and ED. I had many test run and now my total test levels came back at 25ng/ml, which is retarded low. And my LH levels actually came back at 0.0, yes that is none, and my TFH came back at <o.3, which is also retarded. They are going to put me on test replacement therapy. My question for someone with real world experience, is what would be a good combo of either serums, and or supplements to try and get my hormones to elevate. I don't know what my natural levels are so there is nothing for me to compare my low levels to. I just want to see if I can get them elevated without going on therapy, and if I can't then I'll have to go that route. This is a serious question, so if you don't now what you're talking about, please don't respond.

Thanks B

i did a few hard cycles back in the day and i know exactly how you feel. i got pretty bad gyno and had to have it surgically removed...nice! not!

how long have you been off gear? do you have complete test results with ranges.

[phenom1979]

i did a few hard cycles back in the day and i know exactly how you feel. i got pretty bad gyno and had to have it surgically removed...nice! not!

how long have you been off gear? do you have complete test results with ranges.

Yes, I've got all my test results with the ranges. Right off the top of my head, my total test range was 240 to 840, and mine was only 25. They didn't even need to check my free test levels, because my total test was so low. The endo doctor told me, that I had the testosterone of a carrot. I've been off the real stuff for over five years and haven't taken any supplements in the past 6 months.

[ZonaDave]

Yes, I've got all my test results with the ranges. Right off the top of my head, my total test range was 240 to 840, and mine was only 25. They didn't even need to check my free test levels, because my total test was so low. The endo doctor told me, that I had the testosterone of a carrot.

man, you have the lowest numbers i've seen so far! you should get a free steak or something for that...lol

you must feel like crap. how long after your cycle did you get this blood test?

[phenom1979]

[QUOTE=ZonaDave;4443965]man, you have the lowest numbers i've seen so far! you should get a free steak or something for that...lol

you must feel like crap. how long after your cycle did you get this blood test?[/QUOTE

Several months after my PCT was finished, and yes I do fell like crap. All I want to do is lay on my couch, eat, and sleep. My regular doctor said he's never heard of anyone having test that low either. He said that most women have higher test levels than me.

[ZonaDave]

[QUOTE=phenom1979;4443975]

man, you have the lowest numbers i've seen so far! you should get a free steak or something for that...lol

you must feel like crap. how long after your cycle did you get this blood test?[/QUOTE

Several months after my PCT was finished, and yes I do fell like crap. All I want to do is lay on my couch, eat, and sleep. My regular doctor said he's never heard of anyone having test that low either. He said that most women have higher test levels than me.

i know you're not interested in TRT. does your doctor know anything about trying a restart? looks like the "make more T" message is not getting through to your balls.

so what does your doc suggest about your numbers?

[phenom1979]

[QUOTE=ZonaDave;4444079]

i know you're not interested in TRT. does your doctor know anything about trying a restart? looks like the "make more T" message is not getting through to your balls.

so what does your doc suggest about your numbers?

I think he just wants to put me on androgel. With my numbers being so low and me being 29, I don't know if the gel would do enough for me? He really seems disinterested in fixing me. I've been going back and forth to him over the last three months and I still haven't been put on anything. He gives me one blood test everytime and then his nurse calls me a week or so later and tells me to come back in. It's getting really frustrating, I sit around so exhausted all the time and have basically had to put my life on hold because I fell so bad. And my doctor acts like it's not that big of a priority to get me fixed.

[ZonaDave]

[QUOTE=phenom1979;4444985]

I think he just wants to put me on androgel. With my numbers being so low and me being 29, I don't know if the gel would do enough for me? He really seems disinterested in fixing me. I've been going back and forth to him over the last three months and I still haven't been put on anything. He gives me one blood test everytime and then his nurse calls me a week or so later and tells me to come back in. It's getting really frustrating, I sit around so exhausted all the time and have basically had to put my life on hold because I fell so bad. And my doctor acts like it's not that big of a priority to get me fixed.

it sounds like he's pissed that you shut yourself down from being on gear.

you're dangerously low and you need treatment as soon as possible. time to find a new doc...

[Philly Grappler]

Just out of curiosity are you on antidepressants? The reason I ask it that I have been on Prozac for years and had low test levels. Since the Prozac effects libido and stuff, I'm wondering if the prozac and low test levels are related in my case.

[ninesecz]

I had the same problem with my doctor and after 6 weeks of waitng, I switched doctors and left the 1st vsisit with a 200mg shot of Cyp!! If your doctor is not helping find a new one immediately or go to a Urologist or and Endrochronologist That is what I was told to do but luckily my new doctor (she id female and all!) is very very helpful did not even talk about gel or anything just loaded me up with a shot. I will go back next week and from what I got I will be getting a script for injectable! My level is 260 @ 34yrs old

[T20]

Were you in any accidents thats involved getting hit in the junk??... I'm on a TRT right now because I was hit and collapsed an artery. You would think thats something you would notice right away but I didnt find out about it until tests were run. Just something to think about...