Quote Originally Posted by hooker
I'm not saying that someone so young should do anything....I was making a statement about the average age people stop growing. I mean...thats why people generally say not to take steroids until (insert arbitrary age here)-18 is the age you are legally an "adult" - 21 is the age you can legally drink- 35 is the age you can run for president. So to say not to take steroids until you are "XYZ" age, is kind of arbitrary. The "until you stop growing" argument is not really true after 17 and a 1/2 for most people. Recent psychological evidence presented in support of not allowing capital punishment on minors has suggested that certain parts of your intellectual accumen have not fully developed until the after puberty, and into early adolescence (around 20 or so if I recall). SO perhaps that may be the argument we want to focus on. The height-thing is really kind of silly. Perhaps reasonable psychological maturation may be a better area to focus on, but again that's a bit nebulous....

I think, really, starting steroids is an individual thing...people who want to dictate ages for other people to start, citing the invalid "when you stop growing" thing as their primary argument, are just laughable in light of the facts.
Agreed, but 17 IMO is way too young, endocrine system is at least 4-5 years from reaching maturity. That is my major concern, height is good and all, but being on HRT for the rest of your life 'cause you screwed up and did a hormone altering drug at a young age seems like a terrible risk. Plus most guys who work out in H.S. quit before they are out of college, it is a waste of good gear.