after reading a few that have been put up on here i can tell you if you want to start the right way then test is the way to go however my freind has just finished this cycle and its helped dramatically

androil 400mg/day for 1 to 12 weeks
dbol 40mg/day for 1 to 4 weeks then down to 20mg/for 2 weeks

cant remember what he took for his pct

good results where gained.