Quote Originally Posted by jagdpanther
I am commenting on the letro because that is the only place I have given advice. I knew he was taking test cyp but assumed it to be higher dose.

Either way the guy is already suffering from gyno. Letro in that scenario is not over kill if you take it in moderation. It will not kill your sex drive if taken in moderation. I have used adex, nolva,and femara. I've gotten gyno before while taking adex (due to test,tren,and very low deca -for joints). Femara helps - especially once you have the gyno. Luckily I was one it b4 it got bad.

This was my original response copy and pasted:

I would recommend considering Femara, it is a stronger AI then Adex, and studies have been done that show it may actually reduce existing gyno.
Note with either Femara or Arimadex there is ramp up time of about a week before it is effective. During that time I would recommend taking the nolvadex as it will at least block the estrogen receptors for you.

The last thing you may you may wish to consider is adding a highly androgenic compound, like masteron, to shift your hormone balance in favor of androgens. Although this has been shown to be the least effective form of treatment of gyno it would work synergistically with the other two mentioned above.

Here is a link on gyno that describes the hormonal causes and research on three treatments. If you're pressed for time I would recommend that you at the very least read in what is relevant.

down load either the worddoc or pdf

http://www.endotext.org/male/male14/maleframe14.htm

Jagdpanther

That was the first out of a series of replies I made to his questions.
If he had asked before the cycle I would have recommended Adex because I worry about hdl/ldl values but once you are getting gyno it is a whole different matter. So yes I think my advice is sound, I even recommended taking nolva for instant antiE activity for the period b4 the letro becomes effective.

To getfit28
I spelled out the dosing for you in your last post 2 times. I gave you links to the profile for femara. I asked you to do searches on it. I even gave you links to other peoples experiences. I gave you a link to the difference between SERMs and AIs WTF! If you can't suggest a femara protocol for critique from that information I can only think you were playing me lip service when you said you were going to read it and you had learned your lesson. I wasted my F#$% time.
No Panther, I don't think you wasted your time I just wanted to get other peoples oppion. I still have the dosage you recomended me but I have to admit that I wanted to be safe than sorry. Now that you know that I'm runing a short cycle do you still think it's ok to stick with Letro with the recomended dosage?
Reason I'm running this short cycel is because this is what I was able to get from a friend as a one time deal ( 10ml bottle ) which only has 10 shots. Now as you can already tell I'm not very experience with this yet so I have to find a good source out there so I can get some real good cycles. I figure the more people I meet on here I will eventually find my source....
Since you seem to know your stuff have you heard of Liquifen ? it's suppose to be liquid novaldex & according to the research I did you take this orally but it came in a bottle where you can draw from a neddle ? The bottle also reads for research only do not use, have you heard of this ?