Well for years most vets here and all over the net have said it majority diet/lifting/sleep.

But, the public perception is that if you just juice you are gonna look like Arnold's 1982 Mr. O poster.

Most think that regardless of your life style and let me just express IMHO many adults here especially in the US are stuck in a wasting like disorder. Were they go through the years and gain fat and loss muscle.

So lets just posse the question can you just pop some 'roids' sit on your ass/ eat more and gain LBM?


so lets take the look at your ultimate sit on your ass study:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...rtype=abstract

Forty-one patients were enrolled between January 1, 2001, and June 15, 2003, 18 received oxandrolone (10 mg po BID) and 23 received a placebo. Groups were comparable for age, gender, injury severity score, and APACHE II score. The majority were trauma patients (83%), and 90% received enteral feeding. The oxandrolone group received higher caloric and protein intake before enrollment, but these differences were not significant. Contrary to our hypothesis, patients receiving oxandrolone spent significantly longer time on the ventilator than the placebo group (mean 21.7 days vs. 16.4 days, P = 0.03). There was no difference in infectious complications, acute respiratory distress syndrome, or multiple organ failure scores. Patients receiving oxandrolone had a longer intensive care unit stay but no difference in total hospital stay.

So the ultimate laid up scenario, There was not a gain in muscle function. In fact, there was no difference in total hospital stay for those patient. Even looking at higher protein and caloric intake.