You can use HCG up until 4 days prior to PCT, as the last HCG "spike " cycle happens 36-48 hours after injection.

I would/am starting with 250iu E4D as outlined, not EOD as you posted previously, and see how it goes.

It seemed to not be quite enough for me, so I just injected 250iu, even though my last injection was only 2 days ago. So I will do EOD for a few days, and see. If my balls are fine and hanging, I will go back to E4D.

I will however, start EOD 250-500iu after last Test pin up until 4 days prior to PCT.

And....since I´m kickstarting with Dbol, I started HCG week 1.