Just noticed this thread. Floyd is great despite his attempts to keep his perfect record even at the expense of dodging opponents. He dodged Manny even though I am confident he would beat him. As far as all-time greats are concerned, it begins and ends with "Sugar" Ray Robinson. I have never heard any intelligent debate to the contrary. He is as clear-cut as the greatest of all time (GOAT) as Gretzky is in hockey, Rice as a wide-receiver, and Aleksandr Karelin as a wrestler.