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    To Dbol or not

    Previous cycles:
    Test Cyp
    Test Cyp
    Test Cyp + low dose Tren

    Stats:
    Been lifting on and off for 20 years, I've been after it seriously for the past 3 years
    35 yo (or 36, I can't remember)
    Bodyfat, too high to be cycling but it's coming down and I'm going to do this anyway
    I weight 231lbs my bench and squat are both in the 300's assumption is 1RM is 340lbs based on current performance, no clue for squats, in the 300's up there somewhere, I don't squat heavy, if that data is worth anything, full reps, no bouncing or bull shit.
    I was 223lbs before this last cycle, my estrogen went out of control and I blew up to 235lbs so the water is coming off.

    This last run I was going for 12 weeks, bailed out early due to RBC, the plan was to self bleed but as it turns out I'm a *****, I clogged the tube and almost passed out, it appears I can not handle seeing my own blood, and I can only donate every 8 weeks so that is not an option. (so I won't be able to post follow up blood work to the estrogen problem I had, no point since I bailed on that cycle on week 9).

    My original plan was to run two cycles a year, tren when it's cold and deca when it's hot 12 weeks each, I'm not ok with just popping aspirin when my RBC goes up so I'm cutting my cycles back to 8 weeks, I can keep my RBC/Iron in range with an 8 week cycle (I like my heart and kidneys and stuff).

    so I have on hand:

    Test Cyp
    Test Enth
    Dbol
    Deca

    I'm using UGL for blasting and my latest blood work is showing that my UGL test is a bit under dosed, so here is my new 8 week plan but I'm not sold on it yet:

    100mg Test Cyp 1-infinity 2x per week
    500mg Test Enth 1-8 2x per week
    30mg Dbol 1-3 ED
    .3mg Anastrazole EOD while using Dbol
    .25mg Anastrazole EOD after dropping dbol (I get sore joints easy)
    350mg NPP 1-8 (50mg ED)
    HCG 500IU/wk 1-infinity
    .5mg Caber 2X/wk 1-9

    400mg CoQ10 ED
    2500mg fish oil ED
    5mg Cialis ED
    600m NAC ED
    10,000 IU Vitamin A ED (EOD while on Dbol, ED after dropping dbol)
    5 grams of B5 ED
    50mg Zinc ED
    900mg Saw ED
    250mg Magnesium ED
    5mg Taruine ED

    So originally, I was going to run 400mg/wk of deca for 12 weeks, therefore kickstart with dbol (I have 0 experience with orals), now that I'm switching to 8 week runs I'm switching to NPP, however I already have deca and dbol.

    So I'm thinking about adding the dbol in with the next run anyway, I mean I have it I'm not going to throw it out or give it away, and I have deca.

    NPP is a fairly short ester so I won't have the delay in build up like I would have with deca, if I didn't have the Dbol on hand I wouldn't consider using it with this cycle, no need, but I have it.. sooooo, why not?

    I'm thinking about adding the deca to my TRT, 50mg per week for my old man joints, but I am undecided on this as well.

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by GSXRvi6; 03-14-2014 at 07:09 AM.

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