Thanks for comments, yes calves have been easy body part for me, one of the FEW!. I agree, calves show a complete build. I forgot to post stats: Iin those pics: 5'9", was 192 at weight in on friday night. Currently i am 230, but much leaner than i was in past "bulk up" peroids" Next show will be in April i should come in around 210ish. Again would like to hear from some guys about "water management" I know what i did wrong, and have an idea what to do right next time, but would like to hear some comments so i can do some testing before show.