Well Big Al...pros like Franco Santoriello had success from magic pills+cybergenics, Greg Kovacs weighs 400+ pounds because he takes his magic pills with Muscle Tech suppliments and Ronnie Coleman won the Olympia 3 times in a row because he used magic pills and Met Rx. Any of these three suppliments will give you a body close to that of Dorian, Ronnie or Lee Haney but when you add the magic pills...you can pretty much expect to win any contest you enter.
Pete