You should not just take someones word over the internet about something like this, but many people have used the sample cycle i wrote and had great gains and very little sides. The people who have had problems have mostly been people who decided not to use something that i recomended in the sample cycle. Everything in that stack is there for a reason. I am not making gaining anything by you spending money on extra supplements. I was only trying to spread what i know so people dion't mess themselves up and finding out the hard way how do stack it.