This kind of post always amuses me...first a young guy get's unpatient and does not want to wait for results to come, so they jump on the souce...then they get unpatient while on the juice...first train clean for 2-3 years then use gear...and doesn't anyone research anything anymore...if this is your second cycle i would think you would know how long it takes to get results from these items they are both long lasting esters so it will take a bit of time...as for doses, i run lots of cycles and can tell you that even my 5th cycle i only took Sust250 every 4 days and deca at 200mg/week and with right training and diet i gained muscle...so let's stop telling people to increase the dosages and start telling them to improve their training and eating...fak i am clean right now and with proper training i am gaining weight, slowely but surely...here is my rent for the day

...XXL