new guy needs a few pointers

[tren100]

yes but isnt it true that some AS are better for bulking then others.. considering the amount of water weight u put on.... well to get the best gains.. would u say that doing a bulking cycle?? and then cutting would be better?? i just figured that if u bulk up and then cut ., u would have better gains? what do u guys think??

[tren100]

cuz the prob im having is i wanna get bigger and still be shreded.. and i figure with personal experience that bulking and cutting doesnt really work.. so i thought if i bulked and then cut it would work alot better.. im just looking for the right AS to bulk with and to cut with .. i have some idea.. i know i wanna include test e and anadrols and im not sure if i wanna do deca? or what? and im also not sure if i should do halo and anavar in the bulking process or cutting? u boys have any ideas?

[tren100]

ok thanks...the only thing is i have done fina and test and i got lean but i didnt get as big as i was hoping.. thats why i wanted to bulk gain alot of mass and then lean up.. and cut my self... im 24 and i have been lifting for a while now about 5 yeard hard... im 5'8 185 8%bf give or take..i am looking to gain around 15-25 lbs .. haha might be wishful thinking.. but that would be ideal? so u guys really dont think a bulking cycle and then cutting would work.. u think i should just do the lean mass cycle?

[MotoLifter]

ok thanks...the only thing is i have done fina and test and i got lean but i didnt get as big as i was hoping.. thats why i wanted to bulk gain alot of mass and then lean up.. and cut my self... im 24 and i have been lifting for a while now about 5 yeard hard... im 5'8 185 8%bf give or take..i am looking to gain around 15-25 lbs .. haha might be wishful thinking.. but that would be ideal? so u guys really dont think a bulking cycle and then cutting would work.. u think i should just do the lean mass cycle?

If you were to do a lean mass cycle, I dont think you would be able to put on 25lbs of lean mass. That would be VERY difficult. 25lbs sounds more like a eat everything in sight cycle. I have gained 25 lbs on cycle before as have many bros here but it is very hard to keep it lean. But alot can be said for good cardio during a "bulking" cycle. Now 15 sounds like a more reasonable goal.
I think this might work for you if you dont mind fealing like a pin cussion:
1-8 prop
1-8 tren
vit b6
nolva
l-dex (maybe)

I dont kow your cycle history so I cant recomend dosages. Oh and tell your buddies thanks for that ticket on the 405, 3 weeks ago.

[BajanBastard]

If you were to do a lean mass cycle, I dont think you would be able to put on 25lbs of lean mass. That would be VERY difficult. 25lbs sounds more like a eat everything in sight cycle. I have gained 25 lbs on cycle before as have many bros here but it is very hard to keep it lean. But alot can be said for good cardio during a "bulking" cycle. Now 15 sounds like a more reasonable goal.
I think this might work for you if you dont mind fealing like a pin cussion:
1-8 prop
1-8 tren
vit b6
nolva
l-dex (maybe)

I dont kow your cycle history so I cant recomend dosages. Oh and tell your buddies thanks for that ticket on the 405, 3 weeks ago.

You have a good point but i disaggree with the 25 lbs gain with a lean mass cycle....i gained 20 lbs of lean mass on my first cycle 6 wk of tren 75 mg ed and 500 mg test e.

[MotoLifter]

You have a good point but i disaggree with the 25 lbs gain with a lean mass cycle....i gained 20 lbs of lean mass on my first cycle 6 wk of tren 75 mg ed and 500 mg test e.

I have never tried a "lean mass cycle" myself, so I really cant say w/ any certainty. that was your first cycle? or your first cycle of tren and test e?

[BajanBastard]

I have never tried a "lean mass cycle" myself, so I really cant say w/ any certainty. that was your first cycle? or your first cycle of tren and test e?

My first cycle that was over two years ago, i'm plannin' my 2nd now going for 30-35 lbs easy. oh tren100 try this link
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=128361