Bump.

I guess I have to do something to get this thread started again so here it goes ... right back at you TNT. Everybody stop YOUR whining in defense of this non-disciplined sloth and stop insulting my intelligence. Noone that age is stupid enough to believe that you can eat sausage and pepperoni pizza for lunch four days a week and soup on Fridays and lose weight. Everyone stop defending people who "diet" and "exercise" and fail because they just don't know what to do. Oh those poor people we should go help them and tell them they need to stop eating crap all day and need to actually exercise. Like they really don't know that already.

That bullshit!

Come on everybody there is a such thing as common sense! I didn't take some college course on how to take care of my body just to get to where I am today.

The real point we've not yet mentioned is that most often these people feel helpless. They need to know that with the right program I WILL lose weight. They need to be taught to believe in themselves and believe that they can achieve thier goals. If everyone truly believed they'd lose weight on the diets and routines we suggest I bet there would be alot of crowded gyms and there would be alot more fit people in this world. I truly believe that this guys main problem is that he doesn't truly believe the diets and exercise will work and that's why he gives up so easily. And that's why he whines about the futility of diet. I'm going to convince this guy that he really can and will achieve his goals if he really puts himself into it.

My roommate, second year of college, was alot like this guy. He tried to lose weight for months and failed. I challenged him - we agreed that everytime either of us missed a workout or a jog we'd owe the other one $10. He lost 40 lbs. that semester. And I don't want a pat on the back. HE did it. Not me. He believed and he did not give up!