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    I am finding the opposite is true. Growing better on a new simple 500 mg wk only cycle now, and this is my 4th cycle and follows after 2 months off following a 31 month long cycle... getting all new gains above and beyond before and doing extremely well. I think its all BS about needing more and more and more doses... all you really need is just to be "on" and make adjustments to diet and workout routine and the growth comes like crazy.

    I also adjusted workout routine for fabulous results. Used to workout 15 reps to exhaustion, now I increased weights to find exhaustion at 6 to 8 reps and man this is working for me really GREAT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntpadude
    I am finding the opposite is true. Growing better on a new simple 500 mg wk only cycle now, and this is my 4th cycle and follows after 2 months off following a 31 month long cycle... getting all new gains above and beyond before and doing extremely well. I think its all BS about needing more and more and more doses... all you really need is just to be "on" and make adjustments to diet and workout routine and the growth comes like crazy.

    I also adjusted workout routine for fabulous results. Used to workout 15 reps to exhaustion, now I increased weights to find exhaustion at 6 to 8 reps and man this is working for me really GREAT!
    I'm glad you stated that, Ntpadude.

    I was hesitant to post this study for fear people would misinterpret it. Doses can get out of hand depending on how a person approaches cycling.

    Long low to moderate dose cycles seem the most reasonable approach. However, lipids and red blood cell count (among other things) need to be closesly monitored if one is staying off AAS only short periods of time between cycles.

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    The Univeristy of Pork Chop has being preaching this all along.

    I did learn some detail about hemetosis(sp) from the thread. Good post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pork Chop
    I did learn some detail about hemetosis(sp) from the thread. Good post.
    Thanks, Pork Chop.

    Do you mean homeostasis?

    Have you been preaching increasing doses on consecutive cycles or increasing doses during one long cycle? There's a huge difference. The latter is obviously what this article is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BASK8KACE
    Thanks, Pork Chop.

    Do you mean homeostasis?

    Have you been preaching increasing doses on consecutive cycles or increasing doses during one long cycle? There's a huge difference. The latter is obviously what this article is about.
    increasing during the one long cycle.
    i usually got flamed down with "keeping plasma levels from varying" and it was a bad idea to ramp the dose.

    You have to ramp to continue seeing gains, otherwise like the article says, after a few weeks or couple months, your building cycle degenerates into a maintenance cycle.

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    there will NEVER be a controled study of a REAL LIFE CYCLE,so we can read all the studies of low doses and "long cycles"(2 months is not a long cycle).but if you ever have the oppertunity to know a Pro or National level BB.then you will know the true story.I have had the good fortune of knowing personally a BB who back in the 90's competed and placed in the top 10 of the Olympia,and i have 2 close friends(one of which was in my wedding)who are National competators.the truth is that while low dose and short cycles will get you some results along with proper training and diet.you will never look like the BB you aspire to be unless you open your mind up to the reality of it.and that is long term and high dose steroid use...notice i didnt use the word cycle,as that would mean that you discontinue and resume...that dont happen..believe what you want and take from this what you want.but experience is the best teacher.Goodluck to everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVLDOG
    there will NEVER be a controled study of a REAL LIFE CYCLE,so we can read all the studies of low doses and "long cycles"(2 months is not a long cycle).but if you ever have the oppertunity to know a Pro or National level BB.then you will know the true story.I have had the good fortune of knowing personally a BB who back in the 90's competed and placed in the top 10 of the Olympia,and i have 2 close friends(one of which was in my wedding)who are National competators.the truth is that while low dose and short cycles will get you some results along with proper training and diet.you will never look like the BB you aspire to be unless you open your mind up to the reality of it.and that is long term and high dose steroid use...notice i didnt use the word cycle,as that would mean that you discontinue and resume...that dont happen..believe what you want and take from this what you want.but experience is the best teacher.Goodluck to everyone
    As much as I wished it wasn't true, I have to agree with this post...=/

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