it would be crazy if i was making it up.It was in muscle and development and they only use medical refs and studys .the study said ,say your taking d-bol witch is methlated at 50mgs a day,everyday.so thats 350 mgs a week would be as effictive as injecting 50 millagrams of test a week once.but what im saying about the vpx 4-ad injectable is whats there dose for ml .250mgs 4ad for on ml ,**** so to get 2500mgs of 4ad to get converted to maybe 2-300 mgs test, you got to inject a lot of oil sounds like a absess waiting to happen .what 3ccs in each butt check 3ccs in each leg,and the 3ccs in each delt for just to have all that convert to maybee 250 mgs of test thats nuts.plus the said there stacking it with a 1test injectable **** how much oil is that, most 1 test injectables is at 50mgs or a hundred. I have used t-400 and had great gains then my friend moved ,so i tried m1t and methl d I used 50 mgs m1t and 20 mgs methl d a day the only thing i would say is it made my muscles a little bit fuller.basically im saying most orals alone wont do nothing for you except shut down your natural test levels.4little gains.just started a cycle 3 ml 4-hydroxynandro and 1 cc burn free 1 test every 3 days from hmgear.com.thats 600mgs hydroxy deca and a 100mgs 1 test a week . put on 6 pounds of muscle and drop 1 percent in my body fat not bad for a legal product eh in 3 1/2 weeks. your just clowning these poeple like most people selling 4 ad alone the will do nothing for you except mabay give you a absess from all that oil each week for what it to convert to 2- 300mgs of test. they say in must studys ,steriods barley activate the satalite cells for growth at 300mgs or lower. 600 and up you will get some activity your just better off staying natural then runningall that crap the one test injectable i would say is great. m1t is great if stacked with a nice base drug legal or other wise.what im saying is try it out but dont expect to wake up the hulk on 4 ad any time soon.your better off staying natural if you dont want to play on the dark side or are scared of needles< +++just a crazy retards point of veiw not saying to listen just sharing what i have read .and what results i have had with prohormones.i would just inject 300 mgs one test with mabee some methl d to stir it up or m1t . just one retards views on 4ad. evrthings worth a try you never know mabee ronnie colmans secret is he hooks up a iv of 4 ad thats why he is so big hbahabahhahahahaa