I've done a cycle without D-bols. my last cycle actually. I've done d-bols with previous cycles. I'm not saying d-bol doesn't work but I figured I would use the money to buy test. To be honest, I don't think I'll be using d-bols again. I'ts only a filler drug to hold you over for the first couple of weeks until the test kicks in. In my opinion d-bol's are good for people without patience.