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    Quote Originally Posted by CYCLEON
    Christianity's elemental issues is that "there is none righteous - no, not one" that means ANYONE - the whole point is to recognise this and accept forgiveness for your sins - point is that Jesus (God Himself) paid the price for you, and He always meant it to be that way - problem is, it is foolish for people to think that they are going to get to heaven on their own merits....
    By this I'm assuming you are saying God and Jesus are one. Then here's a few Q's:
    Nobody can see god and yet live, but people would have seen him if he came to the earth.
    Also, nobody knows the time of the end, not the angels in heaven or the son, only the father...if they are the same, wouldn't the son know also?
    Both are from the bible, and are reasons why I could never beleive they are the same person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aXe
    By this I'm assuming you are saying God and Jesus are one. Then here's a few Q's:
    Nobody can see god and yet live, but people would have seen him if he came to the earth.
    Also, nobody knows the time of the end, not the angels in heaven or the son, only the father...if they are the same, wouldn't the son know also?
    Both are from the bible, and are reasons why I could never beleive they are the same person.
    Moses looked upon the back of god and was blinded....no man can look at God's TRUE form and live. God can take the form of man and you can look at him then. Somewhere in the Bible it's mentioned we walked on the earth a time or two.

    No one knows the hour....only God.....the son is God....and God is the son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juggernaut
    Moses looked upon the back of god and was blinded....no man can look at God's TRUE form and live. God can take the form of man and you can look at him then. Somewhere in the Bible it's mentioned we walked on the earth a time or two.

    No one knows the hour....only God.....the son is God....and God is the son.
    If the son is god, he would know the time of the end. It doesn't say that. It says: Nobody knows the time of the end, not the son or the angels, only the father, so your reply is contradictory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juggernaut
    Moses looked upon the back of god and was blinded....no man can look at God's TRUE form and live. God can take the form of man and you can look at him then. Somewhere in the Bible it's mentioned we walked on the earth a time or two.

    No one knows the hour....only God.....the son is God....and God is the son.
    The bible does not speak of "true forms", that sounds like a rationalization for a certain belief. Also, why woud Jesus approach the father in prayer many times if in fact he was talking to himself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aXe
    The bible does not speak of "true forms", that sounds like a rationalization for a certain belief. Also, why woud Jesus approach the father in prayer many times if in fact he was talking to himself?

    Check out the trinity thread in the "news, religion.." board here. It is confusing Axe, the trinity, but we are talking about God here. In our mind, does it make sense? No. Its probably the hardest to understand. But is it impossible? no. Are there verses in the bible to support it? yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by max2extreme
    . Are there verses in the bible to support it? yes.
    There are a few verses that are confusing and may lead some to believe in the trinity, but way to many verses that confirm they are seperate..

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