Tren on the other hand does not convert to estrogen at all the structure doesnt allow it where EQ still aromatizes 25% to test. Water retention is very possible on EQ for individuals sensitive to estrogen but unlikely. So in keeping the gains id give it a 8 to 9 but just the fact that EQ increases the apetite so much gives it a 10000 +.I love EQ and i always use it in my cycles instead of deca. They both use same receptors and deca i find makes me fluish and has a bad effect on the nuts. Love EQ and dont waste time with dosages under 400mgs a week and shorter than 10 weeks