Solid, This is what macro said in one of his post on elite "stacking arimidex and yohimbine can be very beneficial in attacking estrogenic fatty deposits (perhaps especially soft tissue gyno)" I had to go over my research. Macro has yohimbine down pat. So I would say liquidex would be good. Also I knew yohimburn was the same as yohimbine, but I was told that it could use some more yohimbine to strengthen it. As for the water retention I really can't say yet cause I just got mine too. I was told it wasn't bad though. Not bad as opposed to what I couldn't tell ya.