Ok I have studied lots of text, but in fairness I find that the "knowledge" of well-informed users to be some what different to the text, maybe the text doesn't keep upto date with the latest developments, but I have found my self being in the middle off conflicting theories, those practiced and those that aren't.

I think I kow what you lookoing for here, and I am not able to recite anything at this point. But I would rather research and verify with the knowledge base I have here.

Anyway I go on hopefully that makes sense.......ish