BTW - DB101 - just reread this thread and I am NOT saying that you will get gyno from deca - in fact it's extremely hard to do so since the conversaion is into progesterone which is not naturally produced in the male body and it's converted into small amounts of this hormone - it takes a good amount to acquire gyno

Papa -

What do you agree with? I am unsure as to what is actually up for debate at this point....are you guys arguing that airmidex or nolvadex will reduce the risk of progesterone related gyno? Or that there is no way to back this up with real studies?

Oh yeah...and a final point - I never said that airmidex or noldvadex would not decrease the incidence of gyno. In fact it WILL - Let's say for example you are taking test and deca (dosages irrelevant in this case) and you have slight conversions of BOTH estrogen (from the test) and progesterone (from the gyno) then cutting down the estrogen build up with an anti aromatase (air. or nolv.) will decrease gyno chances from estrogen AND because it is more likely to get gyno when you have a build up of the TWO in conjunction. But do these drugs actually cut down the amount of PROGESTERONE in the system or by any means keep it from binding to receptors and causing gyno? No. So if that cycle were just deca - no matter what the actual chances of getting gyno were - airmidex, nolvadex etc would NOT chance those chances for the better OR worse.

Get it?