wouldnt run tren with a 1st cycle!Originally Posted by maxmuscle187
however, why not add some dbol wk 1-4 30mg/ED, u will feel the effects od the dbol within 3-5 days, strength and weight gain will appear, other will say jumpstart ur cycle in the 1st week at around 800-1000mg/wk 1 to flood ur system, then returning back to 500mg/wk for the rest of the cycle