lol you are joking right. creatine does no damage to your liver/kidneys compared to the juice. it does zero damage actually if you drink enough water. i see what your saying about the gateway idea, its slightly true but thats about itoriginally posted by A Giant Bear
I am only planning my first cycle now, but I took creatine for about two years. I can't imagine anything being worse on your kidneys and liver than that stuff, even steroids. I'll never take it again.