I was looking at a posted "novice cycle" on the main page with included dbol, deca, and test e. I think I'm still a little confused with the diferent test's. Now maybe I'm just talking out of my ass...lol, but my thinking along the lines of using dbol was keeping it mild. I'm not looking for magic gains overnight. I am only going to use as little as neccessary and with my diet and proper training plus low dosages my thinking is yes, some gains will be lost but the overall net gains will still be there. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm working witha good friend of mine who has used thsi same cycle and was able to keep quite a bit of his gains....he unfortunately just fell out of bodybuilding so to speak.