Hi guys. I'm floating between 225 and 230lbs in these pics. I am going to start my first cycle soon and I'm excited about it to see how well I do.
Cheers.
 
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						Hi guys. I'm floating between 225 and 230lbs in these pics. I am going to start my first cycle soon and I'm excited about it to see how well I do.
Cheers.
def. thick ass hell. traps arms and shoulders lookin real good.. but ur chest needs some more work. wheel pics?
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						No leg pics yet. Yeah, my chest has always been a tough go for me. Could be just genetic limitations I don't know.....I've been training quite low volume with it. Perhaps a higher volume routine is in order.
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						Originally Posted by AVAGO
I'm natural. Good genetics I guess. (except for me chest). I'm starting my first cycle soon.
good luck with the cycle. how about ur back, it in proportion with the rest of u
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						Originally Posted by lucabratzi
Yeah...I have a good back pic somewhere. It's grown in proportion too. My chest is really what needs to be brought up. It's always bugged the hell outta me on how to do this too..lol. My calves need work too. I've been lazy with them in the past.
I've just got into taking pics and really getting serious. I've really gotten on the ball with my diet and training especially now that I'm going to start a cycle. I've been training H.I.T. forever and a day now. Modified versions of it....now I'm using a more genuine H.I.T. routine but I may be switching to max OT style of training....possibly even back to a traditional higher volume routine for my chest.
I can't wait to see myself after the cycle tho.....Regardless of my chest being a little underdeveloped in comparason to the rest of me I think I've done very well for a natural so far.
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						Originally Posted by AVAGO
Thank you for your opinion. I'll take it as a compliment.
Why do people always jump on others accusing them of not being natural?
If he says he is, take it for what it is...why would he lie?
There are alot of physiques that are natural, that look terrific, believe it or not.
So..you doubt everyone who posts pics then?
Congrats, now stop acting like a pre-pubescent little boy and take what the man said at face value.Originally Posted by AVAGO
Why does your input matter anyway? You are blatantly over exaggerating this mans simple statement of being "natural" into a comparison to a ridiculous crock of shlt.
Grow up, I hope your banned just for being a douche.
Originally Posted by angelxterminator
Ok thanks for that i was going to say any way sorry if i come accross sh*tty but IMHO i just dont belive it. There was a thread a few weeks ago some one posted there pics every one BUMPED him for being thick etc 40 posts later hes slating everyone saying its not him and were all nubs for just jumping on the bandwagon.
As for me getting banned for saying i disagree with 1 post (i wasnt rude with my language and tried to be diplomatic in stateing my point)......I dont belive what people tell me from there face value as i have the ability to think for myself.(even tho its a bit hard a 3am)
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						In two months I'll put up my post cycle pics. Anyone have any ideas for help with my chest?
Originally Posted by Awnoldschwarzenegger
And it wasnt even taken badly. It is a massive compliment if you are natty IMO.
That wasn't coming across as a sarcastic @sshole?Originally Posted by AVAGO
I believe it truly was. You wont be banned, I just said that. You have a right to your opinion, it was how you expressed it that made me say what I did.
BTW...its ok, your not a douche
Originally Posted by angelxterminator
good i dont want to be french for shower

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						Aww feel the love in my thread. Now people, let's help Awnold bring his chest up to par and get freaky. I've got the next two months of training planned out with Max OT routines. Working in four week blocks. From evaluating the pics I can really see my lower chest needs to be brought up......especially the outer areas. Thanks to the guy who pointed it out too....I forget who it was and I'm too lazy to look...lol. I really want to nail this as I don't want this cycle to be a complete waste.
I've been training H.I.T. and my strength is increasing however I'm really wanting to get into bodybuilding competitions so any ideas and opinions are welcome.....
**** bro lookin good...keep us updated on the cycle..what r u goin to be running by the way?? good luck on ur cycle
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						dbol and decaOriginally Posted by jollygreenGIANT
I'm starting off with 10mg. a day with the dbol and pyramiding up to 30 or 40. I'm taking it slow as I want to see how my body reacts. I'm working witha good friend of mine who is helping me run this cycle.
Thanks for the props. I think if I put my heart and soul into it I can do really well with bodybuilding.
you need test bro
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						If you dont mind me asking.
Whats your height?
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						Originally Posted by BUBBA74
Not at all. I'm 5'10
bro def. get some test c. in there. d-bol will get u mad strong but alot of the gains are water retention and u lose it after the cycle. deca is good but u gotta stack some test. or u wont be gettin laid anytime soon. deca dick. plus gains will be so much better. u got pct. ready.
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						Cash is a little tight but you guys are right.Originally Posted by lucabratzi
Clomid is on hand for pct.
Thanks for the help guys.
no prob bro...ur probably gonna hear this a lot on this board but its 100% true...u need test for reasons regarding the sides from deca (deca dick), but ull also benefit greatly in terms of gains with some test IMOOriginally Posted by Awnoldschwarzenegger
lol disregard...beat me to the punchOriginally Posted by lucabratzi
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						Good job with the hijack.Originally Posted by AVAGO

Back to the issue at hand. You have a good base bro. I think it is believable that you are natural.
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						I was looking at a posted "novice cycle" on the main page with included dbol, deca, and test e. I think I'm still a little confused with the diferent test's. Now maybe I'm just talking out of my ass...lol, but my thinking along the lines of using dbol was keeping it mild. I'm not looking for magic gains overnight. I am only going to use as little as neccessary and with my diet and proper training plus low dosages my thinking is yes, some gains will be lost but the overall net gains will still be there. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm working witha good friend of mine who has used thsi same cycle and was able to keep quite a bit of his gains....he unfortunately just fell out of bodybuilding so to speak.
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						I think a good low/moderate dose cycle would be 25mg dbol weeks 1-4 along with a single ester test such as cypionate @ 500 mg per week(1-13). THat would be excellent for a first cycle. You could also add deca @ 400mg per week (1-12) if you wanted to. Good luck.
That third pic looks like the opening scene to some gay porn. . . I should know.
lol, and how is that?Originally Posted by SMYL_GR8
imo. if cash is tight u should wait and save up, if its ur first cycle ur gonna wanna do it right and get the most gains out of it. what axe laid out for a cycle is exactly what u should do. but keep us posted and def. give some pics of when ur on.
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						I'm going to look into that....this cycle was really just aimed at seeing how my body reacts to a low dosage and shorter cycle. We were planning on running 8 weeks to start. Thanks for the advice though....definately things to consider. I'm still thinking that if I keep my doses low enough, Ill be able to come off much easier and keep a higher percentage of my gains. Again, I apologize if I am speaking out of my ass...Originally Posted by aXe
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						Originally Posted by lucabratzi
well...it's actually not THAT tight....I suppose, being that it's my first time, I'm still somewhat nervous about it. Excited but nervous. I'm going to talk to my buddy about it some more too.
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						I believe that you are natural. Why your look seems unachievable naturally to some, I've no idea. Perhaps some of their own limitations surface or something like that and the stones are then hurled.
Anyhow, good base for sure!
~SC~
I don't know what that trash was earlier about you not being natural...you look good bro. Some people prob wouldn't believe I was natural either by my pics pre-cycle, I've been accused many times before I even thought about gear. Take it as a compliment.
Good luck bro.
Avago- how is that physique not doable to obtain naturally?
you are very thick...bring up the chest and lose the hair on the chest, get a tan and you should look awesome. good work bro.
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						look good I agree chest looks good but needs a little more...
you are a harry bastard though...
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						I get rid of the hair once in awhile....I'm just lazy with that tho.
Worry about that later bro...get the chest built up and you'll be ready to go.Originally Posted by Awnoldschwarzenegger
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						Going to a mx-OT routine. Flat bench...3X4-6, Incline Bench 2X 4-6, Decline bench 3 X 4-6.
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