there is also another guy at the gym that is on some stuff. i think he said it was testerone or something like that. im gonna go talk to him tonight about it. he said its 250$ for what he has. i have noticed that he has gotten a little bigger and has gotten cut up too within the past month or so. those are for injections. if anyone has AIM, my name is witepsycho. it may be easier that way..