I bought the book called "Built to Survive". It is a book written mostly for aids patients and the use of steroids. They quote quit a few medical studies, and have done alot of research oin the use of steroids. The guys who wrote the book have a web sight: http://www.medibolics.com. In there book they state that at the end of the cycle you need to take, (I don't have the book in front of me right now so I am recalling) HCG for 3wks, clomid for 3wks after that, and 1mg arimidex for the whole 6wks. Now this may have been a total of 8wks, and I can not remember dosages of the HCG or clomid. If you go to www.mesomorhpis.com, Bill Roberts says you should not use HCG at the end. I have e-mailed both of the people to find out who actually has any studies pertaining to the use of HCG at the end of the cycle, I have not heard back from anyone yet. I am going on assumption, only because of all of the evidence in the Built for Survive book, that they have it right. My question is, has anyone here actually read any studies on this. I know everyone say on the boards that it should not be used post cycle, arfe they just repeating what Bill Robert or someone else has said, or just going on theory. Look at all of the MD's ought there who do not really know what they are talking about when it comes to steroids. Only since they have begun to study aids paitience on them arer we really getting some hard facts. I would really like to know the real facts.