I am only running the Dbol for 4 weeks MAX so im not too worried bout the sides but the bloat is kinda cool although my nolva has kept that in check for the most part the only body part im bloating in is my arms like PHK!!! I can honestly say that the Dbol has upped my strength thats for sure...was maxing out at 225 and now im up to 245 for 5 after 2 weeks well 2 1/2 actually... thats why im pumped to see the REAL strength and pumps when the test/e kicks in....but its all part of the wait