from reading posts after post i notice that test is a MUST in every cycle? what is the reason behind this?
from reading posts after post i notice that test is a MUST in every cycle? what is the reason behind this?
Yes it stops your dick from refusing to get hard basically. Read this http://forums.steroid*****/showthread.php?t=161345
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this whole **** is getting on my nerves
no chit..u gotta do allotta work to get to one aticleOriginally Posted by wilthepill123
damm rediculuos
test is the ultimaTE MASS BUILDER
because bro's dont like to loose their erection dude.
It is also the natural hormone that is in your body... And it is good to have it circulating in your system as other anabolics will shut down your bodys production of it.
He wanted a real answer... not the retarted versionOriginally Posted by saluu
From what I have learned, as little as it is, test gives you the quality gains. You look at the orals, they go away eventually but the test gains you can keep.
Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
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i like being rock hard and i don't mean just my muscles
if ya don't add test to your cycle your body will be rock hard
but your lill one eyed german storm trooper will be limp as a noodle
thanks for the info. i'm just waiting for the sus to kick in so i can **** the whole city, what am i saying....... more like **** the whole country. lol
There is no cycle without test.
there is a LOT more to taking test for a first cycle than just gettin the man in the brown turtleneck up......testosterone is crucial for every male, regardless of its muscle building and sex drive purposes.
ha haOriginally Posted by Mesomorphyl
You need the androgenic response from testosterone. Without it, your training will suck. Your strength will be down so you will not be lifting as heavy. Your enthusiasm will be down. You will lose out on the synergistic effect between androgenic and anabolic compounds. Your head will be all messed up. Your libido, of course, will hit rock bottom. You are supressing your endogenous test, so you must, to keep getting the benefits of your natural hormones, replace it with more test.
I hate test never had any probs with erection, mood, ....anything.
Very happy with my results without it.
Originally Posted by The Baron
Biggest load of crap...
Strength down?? My bench went up 60lbs with Eq/winny. Mood was excellent. Pumps and training were insane.
What doses were you running? Also did you keep track of lean mass gained? How long did you run it? More insight please.Originally Posted by spooledup
Before saying I am full of crap, had you considered that your response to test-less cycles might not be typical? There are, after all, exceptions to every truism. I am quite surprised that your libido and mood were unaffected. Frankly, I am a bit jealous. That is NOT typical.Originally Posted by spooledup
To be fair, winny does have a strong androgenic effect. I would still prefer to run test with it.
Bump for spooledup to give further insight.
Originally Posted by Thegr8One
they say other gear like Eq, Winny if ran without test wont shut you down? Maybe just a little but the recovery is easier than when shut down by test....ANYone care to add to this or know from Experience?
I ran an EQ/Winny cycle for my first cycle.
i was stupid and did not read up on anyhitng before taking it. All i did was listen to a friend.
After the 1st month it absolutely shut me down. My next cycle will definetly contain test. I guess everyone is different but it def shut my system down.
(no erection, depression, always in a bad mood) it sucked.
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