bro...i personally have done d-bol only and maintained my gains without the use of any supplement..tho d-bol is not recommended because 99% of the time u lose ur gains.IF your goin to do d-bol only use clomid 12 hrs after your last d-bol..this will help alot..but i wouldnt use andros..a matter of fact my best friend did that along with other pills and ended up in bad shape in the hospital