sorry cnyc, but i think you gotta ask the girl's father. It is a very respectable thing to do.. The parents would love it. And ask boh of them not just the father.. Go over with a bottle of wine one day.. sit them down and ask them. ( you could takem both out to eat too) andyes make sure to tell them not to tell her.. SOmeone i guess don't like that.. But dude you gotta remeber that Those are her parents... Her family... you gotta show that respect first and formost.... peace and good luck